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Mexico’s president says ‘there will be no invasion … it’s absolutely off the table’ after news reports of order

Mexico’s president, Claudia Sheinbaum, has rejected the idea that the US might invade Mexico after news reports suggested Donald Trump had authorized the use of military force targeting drug cartels deemed terrorist organizations in Latin American countries.

“The United States is not going to come to Mexico with their military,” she said during a daily news conference on Friday. “We cooperate, we collaborate, but there will be no invasion. It’s off the table, absolutely off the table.”

The Mexican president said her government had been informed of the executive order but insisted that “it had nothing to do with the participation of any military or any institution on our territory. There is no risk that they will invade our territory.”

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This justification is straight out of Clear and Present Danger. Also, see Sicario. Big exception being, those anti-cartel operations were black jobs. Now we're openly talking about it!

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

those black jobs make a lot more sense.

Openly talking about it and framing it like a military invasion is just dumbshit, caveman, jingoistic, sports team levels of bravado. Authoritarian and Fascist strongmen just doing authoritarian fascist strongman things.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Variable, this is Knife...

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That's the movie that make me look up "actual" as a commo term!

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

So if the cartels are operating in Mexico and the United States, and Trump's executive order doesn't involve using the military on Mexican territory, I guess it must be to use the military on American territory?

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah—now military deployments anywhere in America can be dismissed as part of anti-cartel actions, until they aren’t.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

You mean day 1 then?

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is what Project 2025 said wasn't it?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

And don't forget all the bullshit claims that people with random tattoos were MS-13 members and sent to El Salvador. Now he'll send the army against whatever tattoo he decides he doesn't like next.

[–] valek879@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Your logic seems sound.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Mexico has no military that could stop the US. Maybe sanctions...but it's not like saying "no" ever stopped Mango Mussolini.

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Maybe Mexico should be in NATO now.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They have a whole lot of people who could pass as someone genuinely from the US underclass for long enough to get into a shopping mall or some legislatures with an automatic weapon.

And a border long enough that they can't be efficiently stopped, especially as the front overtakes them. Look at Russia and Ukraine and a third of the Russian strategic airforce in flames.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

I am with you until the last sentence.

In an actual war, the US would take Mexico in half a day. The US military is far more competent than Russsia. But holding it is another matter.

There would be insurgents for decades and you are absolutely right that it would spill over into the domestic United States. I would be an absolute disaster.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ukraine has the benefit of bordering a powerful alliance that is giving them weapons, Mexico does not.

Guatemala, Belize, and boats from Cuba are nowhere near the same thing as getting literal trainloads of heavy weapons and fighting vehicles through Poland.

comparing Mexican/Cartel resistance to an aggressive America, is not even in the same conversation as the bumbling fuckwit Russian invasion of Europe.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Don't forget: one side's soldiers present a far larger target area...

"betcha they won't see me, Sarge"

[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They have enough to hurt a lot.

[–] No1@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And they should have a nice big defensive WALL 🤣

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[–] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you, I know this is the cheeto creating distractions, but we (mexicans) would not stand a chance against the USA if they actually decided they wanted our territory.
Our militia is a joke in comparison and the narcos (you know, the ones with better equipment, information and controlling the goverment) would hide, they would not fight at all.
Also the goverment has been doing their best antagonising the citizens and taking our rights away so... It would be a hard pill to swallow for everyone and arming the people you've been harassing and abusing doesn't sound like a great idea.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If the US invades Mexico it'll overrun it within a day, no doubt. However, look at Afghanistan, Iraq. Look at how the US got beat every time. Now remember what cartels do with their enemies and imagine how many soldiers hanging from bridges it would take for the US to call it quits. Remember how many cartel soldiers there already are in the US. What do you think the Latino community will do once the US army starts the eventual murder of innocent Mexican citizens...

The US invading México will end Mexico, it will also end the US

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the US invading -anyone- who isn't already seen as an enemy of the nation by the PEOPLE of the nation, will trigger an actual shooting civil war.

and by that I mean, there aren't very many countries that the majority of American people truly see as an enemy, so thats basically Russia, Iran, North Korea, to some extent China. and a bunch of countries from the middle east , central america and southeast asia who have varying histories of things vaguely "islamist, terrorist, or communist"

Mexico, and Literal Allies like Canada and other NATO countries, are not on that list. starting a war with someone not on that list, will be a signal to everyone in America who isn't a brown nosing collaborator, that their own government is rogue and has to be toppled.

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[–] WizardofIs@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

Once again, Thank You President Sheinbaum!!

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