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‘1 Progressive vs 20 Far-Right Conservatives’ – Mehdi Hasan on why he went on Surrounded (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 5 days ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Pssh. I had posted this 10 minutes earlier and got no updoots.

https://lemmy.world/post/34157935

On the content, really, truly great tips from Mehdi. However, I agree so much so with his 7th and final tip, it brings into question the utility of the other tips. You shouldnt debate fascists. There is no point. It only validates their viewpoint to elevate it to being worthy of debate, when it simply isn't because they're in violation of the kinds of social contract that make debate possible.

But something he missed in this video, but which he did mention on his livestream after the event: You are not debating to change the mind of the person before you. You are debating to convince the viewing audience. You job isn't to change the minds of a fascist, its to put the mind of a fascist on display in such a way as to convince your audience that a fascist isn't someone they should ever agree with.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Pssh. I had posted this 10 minutes earlier and got no updoots.

This community gets 2.23k users per week, whereas you posted it to one that gets 2 users per month; I don't know what you were expecting.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I just browse by /all and new so its pretty much like drinking from a fire hose. I try and post Zeteo to c/Zeteo, but I'll try cross posting in the future.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Presumably the "2 users per month" are you when you posted that, and me when I clicked your link, so that community seems pretty dead. I think cross-posting to multiple relevant communities is the only real way to get any traction on Lemmy, unfortunately. It at least draws attention to the more specialized communities from people who were browsing the general ones. I know I've subscribed to many communities that I discovered through crossposts... wouldn't otherwise have known they existed.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most users are subscribed to a community and posts go on the frontpage by activity. The only time a new sub sees massaive activity is when is likely being astroturfed like the 50501 community which sprung up out of nothing.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I mean thats all bot activity.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I hate these videos so much. It’s just an exercise in creating clips that pander to either side. The race to the chair is absolutely insane.

[–] DesertDwellingWeirdo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It is proven effective propaganda. Videos like this plaguing social media are what won Trump the election. Dems are playing catch up now.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 4 points 4 days ago

Yeah, it's a fucking weird format. It's kind of funny to watch sometimes though, plus you get a bit of an insight of how these people think (well, lack of mostly).

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I first read Hasan and thought Hasanabi