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"Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier," Zelenskyy said in a Telegram message early Saturday.

Volodymyr Zelenskyy defiantly declared Saturday that his countrymen “will not give their land to occupiers,” after Donald Trump suggested that a peace deal would include some “swapping” of territories with Russia.

“The answer to Ukraine’s territorial question is already in the constitution of Ukraine,” Zelenskyy said in a message on Telegram early Saturday. “No one will and no one can deviate from it. Ukrainians will not give their land to the occupier.”

His comments came after Trump announced on Truth Social that a long-awaited meeting with Vladimir Putin had been scheduled for next Friday in Alaska.

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[–] ValarieLenin@midwest.social 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait I thought there was going to be peace right after he got elected....

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Give him 2 weeks promise !

[–] bier@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

It's like your new boss saying you never have to worry about your job again. Right before he fires you.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I was home invaded and a cop showed up right at that moment and the solution was..."I'll let the home invader leave your house, but only if you give him your television.". I am Ukraine, the home invader is Russia and the cop is trump. What a debacle!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If I was home invaded and a cop showed up

Of course that's going to make things worse

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, in this scenario, you'd be lucky if the cop doesn't arrive 3 hours late and shoots you.

Incidentally, that's the US policy for the Middle East

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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

As he should.

Fuck trump. Fuck Russia. Slava ukraini

[–] manxu@piefed.social 174 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Weird how the articles say, "swap" when they really mean Ukraine will bé forced to give up land. That's not a swap.

[–] drath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Just like the recent US-brokered "peace deal" between Armenia and Azerbaijan, where Armenia gave up everything and the violent dictator Aliev pinky promised not to attack them again...

[–] milkisklim@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's with the accent over the letter é in be?

[–] manxu@piefed.social 65 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Typed on a phone with French keyboard. "be" is not a French word, but "bé" is.

[–] milkisklim@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Damage@feddit.it 32 points 2 days ago

You mean léarned

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I wish people understood better the monster that is Trump

"He invented the Art of the Deal"

The Art of the Deal was ghostwritten and Trump had little to no say in it outside of "Make me look good"

"But he's still good at making deals, that's why he's so successful."

His secret to success was a refusal to pay his workers and contractors, knowing it'd be more expensive to sue him for stolen wages than it would be to just work pro-bono.

"But he's a businessman!"

He played one on TV for the show "The Apprentice", but in reality most Trump ventures have a track-record of going bankrupt. Running for President is the one thing that's gone well for him, this is because we live in a fucking clown show and God is dead. God perished in a tragic fire that claimed the lives of Santa Claus, The heavily bosomed maiden who invented pizza, and any reason I have to think it will ever be okay again.

In short, Trump isn't good at making deals. His only move is to tell people to eat shit and like it, and exploit legal loopholes, corrupt lawyers, and a system that favors the rich above all else to make it happen.

In a just world, Trump would be a cautionary riches to rags story.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago

I love this last take. Really, that would be it. Were we in a movie

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

In a just world, Trump would be a cautionary riches to rags story.

"To shreds , you say?"

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 61 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Trump talked about swapping territories, but he never said Ukraine. He's talking about America. He's going to give Alaska to Russia, and Russia is going to give us Canada, and maybe Greenland.

Trump will look at the fact that Canada is much bigger than Alaska, so he wins. It won't occur to him that Canada isn't Russia's to give away, nor does Alaska belong to Trump to give away.

Trump will make announcement like he's the greatest deal maker in history, American citizens will be outraged, and Putin will just laugh and laugh...

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Given how many USians repeated their trump’s rhetoric about Canada becoming the 51st state, I don’t think most of his flock would object.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. Therefore, I expect to see it happen now. Fuck this timeline...

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Exactly. I'm not disputing how stupid it is, only that with HitlerPig, an outcome as ludicrous as this is actually possible.

[–] RangerAndTheCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If this even partially becomes truth, I think you needed a permanent flair of “Nostradamus”

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I really love that the appropriate response to it is "Oh, God. Please make it not happen" instead of laughing at the ridiculous idea.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 77 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Swap? Russia is not giving up anything. Russia would be swapping useless Ukrainian land for important land they dont control. Thats a stupid deal and another stupid deal in trumps stupid belt.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

Thats a stupid deal

The kind that Trump does best.

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 56 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So, which part of USA territory is Trump willing to give up? Well, if the answer is none, that much of land is Ukraine willing to give up.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I volunteer Texas and Florida!

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago

I see the child rapist is having his delusions again making up stories.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So trump thinks it's about land mass, and not the people living there. Gotya.

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[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think a swap is a great idea. Zelenskyy should ask for St Petersburg and Konigsberg for Donbas and Luhansk.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Russia gets everything east of Moscow, Ukraine gets everything west. We can build a wall down the middle of Moscow to show it.

That’s why it’s called the Art of the Deal baby

(⌐■_■)

[–] Mika@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This whole USA diplomacy is fucking whack. Lots of confusion on what, why, where.

First, after Witkoff dialog in russia, Trump told European partners that there would be exchange Kherson/Zaporizhzhya (russia moves out) to Donetsk/Luhansk (Ukraine moves out).

Then next day Witkoff says russia is not planning to retreat from anywhere.

Next day, EU leaders demanded a call with Witkoff, where he confirmed the deal is "Ukraine moves out of Donetsk in exchange to ceasefire".

Fucking clowns.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, isn't there an arrest warrant for Putin? The US would ignore it to talk to him in Alaska?

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

US is not a signatory to the ICC

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In fact, the US actively opposes the ICC and has made Microsoft block the chief prosecutor's email

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