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[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 31 points 3 days ago

I skimmed the article, I might have missed it but here's another strike against AI, that is tremendously important: It's the ultimate accountability killer.

Did your insurance company make an obvious mistake? Oops teeehee, silly them, the AI was a bit off

Is everything going mildly OK? Of course! The AI is deciding who gets insurance and who doesn't, it knows better, so why are you questioning it?

Expect (and rage against) a lot of pernicious usage of AI for decision making, especially in areas where they shouldn't be making decisions (take Israel for instance, that uses an AI to select ""military"" targets in Gaza).

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (4 children)
  1. It's theft to digital artisans, as AI-generated works tend to derive heavily without even due credit.
  2. It further discourages what's called critical thinking.
  3. It's putting even technically competent people out of work.
  4. It's grift for and by techbros.
[–] Soup@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Numver 3 is crazy too because it’s putting people out of work even when it’s worse than them, the bubble bursting will have dire consequences and if it’s held together by corrupt injections of taxpayer money then it’ll still have awful consequences, and the whole point of AI doing our jobs was to free us from labour but instead the lack of jobs is only hurting people.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

For 3, there are two things:

  • It is common for less good, but much cheaper tech to displace humans doing a job if it's "good enough". Dishwashing machines that sometimes leave debris on dishes are an example.

  • The technically competent people have long ofnet been led by people not technically competent, and have long been outcompeted by bullshit artists. LLM output is remarkably similar to bullshit artistry. One saving grace of the human bullshit artists is they at least usually understand they secretly have dependencies on actual competent people and while they will outcompete, they will at least try to keep the competent around, the LLM doesn't have such concepts.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ai is the smart fridge of computing.

[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

No, its a can!

[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 64 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The reason we hate AI is cause it's not for us. It's developed and controlled by people who want to control us better. It is a tool to benefit capital, and capital always extracts from labour, AI only increases the efficiency of exploitation because that's what it's for. If we had open sourced public AI development geared toward better delivering social services and managing programs to help people as a whole, we would like it more. Also none of this LLM shit is actually AI, that's all branding and marketing manipulation, just a reminder.

Yes. The capitalist takeover leaves the bitter taste. If OpenAI was actually open then there would be much less backlash and probably more organic revenue.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago (42 children)

It's extremely wasteful. Inefficient to the extreme on both electricity and water. It's being used by capitalists like a scythe. Reaping millions of jobs with no support or backup plan for its victims. Just a fuck you and a quip about bootstraps.

It's cheapening all creative endeavors. Why pay a skilled artist when your shitbot can excrete some slop?

What's not to hate?

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It dehumanizes us by devaluing the one thing that was unique to us, our minds and creativity.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

Its an unfinished product with various problems, used in humans to develop it and make money.

It does nothing right 100%! We as humanity care to make money out of it, and not help humanity in many ways.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There was a thread of people pointing out biases that exist on Lemmy, and some commenters obviously mention anti-AI people. Cue the superiority complex (cringe).

Some of these people actually believe UBI will become a thing for people who lose their jobs due to AI, meanwhile the billionaire class is actively REMOVING benefits for the poor to further enrich themselves.

What really gets me is when people KNOW what the hell we’re talking about, but then mention the 1% use case scenario where AI is actually useful (for STEM) and act like that’s what we’re targeting. Like no, motherfucker. We’re talking about the AI that’s RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, contributing to a future where we’re all braindead ai-slop dependent, talentless husks of human beings. Not to mention unemployed now.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A system is what it does. If it costs us jobs, enriches the wealthy at our expense, destroys creativity and independent thought, and suppresses wrongthink? It's a censorious authoritarian fascist pushing austerity.

Show me AI getting us UBI or creating worker-owned industry and I'll change my tune.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

UBI is there to save billionaires.

They're a shortsighted lot who don't recognize that workers are also their customers. If they stop paying us all, then there is nobody to buy their stuff. UBI is the way out of that for them while still having billionaires around.

It aligns with Democratic Socialists well enough, but not the seize-the-means socialists.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

It aligns with Democratic Socialists well enough, but not the seize-the-means socialists.

That's a fair observation I think: UBI doesn't put the same pressure on financialization that worker- owned industry does. Ultimately I think eliminating work is a terrible idea, but reducing work, focusing on actually productive work, and ensuring we all collectively benefit from it is ideal.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 173 points 4 days ago (19 children)

We hate it because it's not what the marketing says it is. It's a product that the rich are selling to remove the masses from the labor force, only to benefit the rich. It literally has no other productive use for society aside from this one thing.

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And it falsely make people think it can replace qualified workers.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And it falsely makes people think it can make art.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's corporate controlled, it's a way to manipulate our perception, it's all appearance no substance, it's an excuse to hide incompetence under an algorithm, it's cloud service orientated, it's output is highly unreliable yet hard to argue against to the uninformed. Seems about right.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 15 points 4 days ago

And it will not be argued with. No appeal, no change of heart. Which is why anyone using it to mod or as cs needs to be set on fire.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 121 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (21 children)

Someone on bluesky reposted this image from user @yeetkunedo that I find describes (one aspect of) my disdain for AI.

Text reads: Generative Al is being marketed as a tool designed to reduce or eliminate the need for developed, cognitive skillsets. It uses the work of others to simulate human output, except that it lacks grasp of nuance, contains grievous errors, and ultimately serves the goal of human beings being neurologically weaker due to the promise of the machine being better equipped than the humans using it would ever exert the effort to be. The people that use generative Al for art have no interest in being an artist; they simply want product to consume and forget about when the next piece of product goes by their eyes. The people that use generative Al to make music have no interest in being a musician; they simply want a machine to make them something to listen to until they get bored and want the machine to make some other disposable slop for them to pass the time with.

The people that use generative Al to write things for them have no interest in writing. The people that use generative Al to find factoids have no interest in actual facts. The people that use generative Al to socialize have no interest in actual socialization.

In every case, they've handed over the cognitive load of developing a necessary, creative human skillset to a machine that promises to ease the sweat equity cost of struggle. Using generative Al is like asking a machine to lift weights on your behalf and then calling yourself a bodybuilder when it's done with the reps. You build nothing in terms of muscle, you are not stronger, you are not faster, you are not in better shape. You're just deluding yourself while experiencing a slow decline due to self-inflicted atrophy.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Damn that hits the nail on the head. Especially that analogy of watching a robot lift weights on your behalf then claiming gains. It's causing brain atrophy.

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[–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

You’re just deluding yourself while experiencing a slow decline due to self-inflicted atrophy.

Chef's kiss on this last sentence. So eloquently put!

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[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

It's actually a useful tool..... If it were not too often used for so very dystopian purposes.

But it's not just AI. All services, systems, etc... So many are just money grabs, hate, opinion making or general manipulation.... I have many things I hate more about "modern" society, than I do as to how LLMs are used.

I like the lemmy mindset far more than reddit and only on the AI topic people here are brainlessly focused on the tool instead of the people using the tool.

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[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 75 points 4 days ago (21 children)

Ed Zitron is one of the loudest opponents against the AI industry right now, and he continues to insist that "there is no real AI adoption." The real problem, apparently, is that investors are getting duped. I would invite Zitron, and anyone else who holds the opinion that demand for AI is largely fictional, to open the app store on their phone on any day of the week and look at the top free apps charts. You could also check with any teacher, student, or software developer.

A screen showing the Top Free Apps on the Apple App Store. ChatGPT is in first place.

ChatGPT has some very impressive usage numbers, but the image tells on itself by being a free app. The conversion rate (percentage of people who start paying) is absolutely piss poor, with the very same Ed Zitron estimating it being at ~3% with 500.000.000 users. That also doesn't bode well with the fact that OpenAI still loses money even on their $200/month subscribers. People use ChatGPT because it's been spammed down their throats by the media that never question the sacred words of the executives (snake oil salesmen) that utter lunatic phrases like "AGI by 2025" (Such a quote exists somewhere, but I don't remember if this year was used). People also use ChatGPT because it's free and it's hard to say no to get someone to do your homework for you for free.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I love how every single app on that list is an app I wouldn’t touch in my life

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I don't hate AI. I'm just waiting for it. Its not like this shit we have now is intelligent.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hate and like the fact that AI can't actually think for itself.

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[–] Tracaine@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (19 children)

I don't hate AI. AI didn't do anything. The people who use it wrong are the ones I hate. You don't sue the knife that stabbed you in court, it was the human behind it that was the problem.

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