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I don't bother.
A fire (or flood or theft or...?) threat might take out both of my local copies. To offset that risk, I put a lot of effort into making sure the offsite copy is always functional, up-to-date, and healthy (S.M.A.R.T and otherwise).
I've been considering keeping a fourth copy of extra extremely crucial data encrypted on Backblaze B2, but honestly...if I lose my whole 3-2-1 stack, it's probably time to go live as a goat.
Just put some stuff on a HDD, encrypt it, and keep it at your parent's house.
Yeah this is what I do. All the important or irreplaceable stuff easily fits on a USB HDD, and I leave one with a friend I visit regularly. I just run three drives total and no more than two of them are in the same place at the same time. Cheap, simple, and a good excuse to catch up.
This should be a thing. Like a trusted group of people to store encrypted backups at their house. Just needs a catchy name. "Data Safety Social Club"?
Crash plan used to have a "backup to your friends" solution. They ended it, dammit
I've had corporate clients with halogen fire suppression systems.
I've seen home offices use lto tape and a thermal resistant safe.
I've heard of people linking networks with the neighbour and using a remote drive at their house.
I duplicate my data to my parents house, and I think it's far enough that one backup point could be nuked and my data would still be safe 👍
I am not sure if it is still applicable, but with the 3-2-1 rule, that should work good enough. 3 copies of your data on two different medium with one off-site backup.
So the data with it's local backup that is copied to an off site backup. Which is probably your case (I assume that your offsite backup is a copy of your local backup).
The cloud storage is backed up to an external harddrive (only like 200 GB) and the on site stuff is backed up to the cloud.
If we end up with the office burning down and a ransomware attack or something at the cloud storage at the same time we are beyond fucked anyway.
At home I've got nothing important enough to care for either.
What I'd do is occasionally take an external harddrive with a backup to another site. Does not need to be fire proof. Sure you can have two simultaneous fires, but you've got to draw the line somewhere.
My off site backup are physical drives in another building.
My production and onsite backup burned in a fire this summer. Everything backed up remotely. Once I get new hardware I'll be back where I left off in less than an hour (if everything goes as planned)
Sure, my place has the required residential sprinklers and a couple up to date fire extinguishers around.
Besides, offsite backup is 1:1 on identical hardware with off-grid power resilience. Worst case scenario I have to order new hardware and physically move the old machine for a local duplication again.
All of it is insured of course with yearly audits.
I use a fireproof safe but never bothered to look to see if it would protect. just assumed.
Seems like the vast majority don't. They protect paper, but not drives...
maybe he keeps on his backup on punch cards?
As far as I'm concerned fire and flood are just game over for data. There are resistant enclosures but I wouldn't count in them. For what they cost, I'd rather buy a cheap HP Microserver with a bunch of hard disks and install it at family's house, which is what I do. That way I've got a physical object I can drive over and collect if needed, and it's still remote.
That's what the off-site backups are for.
Yes. At work
You can if you use USB HDDs or tapes for backups.
I assume the intent here is humor. Or am I missing something?
I think they mean if you’re using removable media that is easily portable then the answer to your question about fire proofing is doable.
You can store them in a fire safe when not actively backing up or need constant access.
Fireproof safes are for paper, not drives or tape.
They work by having a material in the walls that breaks down from heat, keeping the interior cool enough for paper.
I wouldn't trust that without some kind of testing.
Well, honestly they’re not really good for anything. Most manufacturers use a bake type method, which is not in anyway comparable to a house engulfed in actual flames.
As a general consumer, this is about the best you can do. Put whatever in a “fireproof” bag inside a “fireproof” safe and you might save your data in the event of a fire.
It’s the same thing about gun “safes”. They’re not really safes unless you spend big money. Like $10,000+. Otherwise they’re categorized as “residential containers”.
I should have clarified whether or not my answer was in response to “is it possible” instead of “is it recommended”.
MTO answer your title, yes. He's you should.
No. I didn't do backups during the last decades, so maybe I'm going to start some day, eventually, but surely not with overdoing it ;-)
