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European leaders are on an all-out push to forestall Oval Office conflict at a crucial stage in diplomacy to end Russia’s war on Ukraine.

Donald Trump’s embrace of Russia’s Vladimir Putin on Friday has European leaders anxious that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy won’t get the same friendly treatment. And they’re taking action to bolster Kyiv’s chances.

Plans are in the works to send at least one of Trump’s favorite interlocutors, Finnish President Alexander Stubb, along with Zelenskyy when he comes to Washington Monday to meet with Trump, according to two European diplomats and a person familiar with the matter.

The idea is that Stubb can help prevent any flare-ups between Trump and Zelenskyy and convince the U.S. president to include Europe in any further talks.

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[–] SpontaneousCombustion@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He always caves under pressure. Totally clueless

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What pressure? Wasn't the whole thing pretty much planned for years?

"Watch this, now we waste yet a little more time with me going to Moscow..."

Ukraine is getting a screw job from these two mobsters.

[–] SpontaneousCombustion@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What pressure? Wasn't the whole thing pretty much planned for years?

Putin went there with an agenda. Trump blew hot air about sanctions if there wasn’t a ceasefire, and 3 hours in, he’s parroting the Putin line. Trump has dementia- he shouldn’t be in charge of an ice cream van.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

he has to be on putins good side, if he wants putins troll farms to steer the masses away from the epstein files.

[–] MyOpinion@lemmy.today 12 points 4 months ago

Heavy hitters to face off with a mental midget.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

After sucking up to Trump in the tariffs shenanigans?

So far the EU hit with styrofoam peanuts at Trump.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

EU leaders: "Watch and learn, Zelenskyy... Yes Mr Trump, you win, we agree to everything you said."

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

...and then don't do as you claim to agree.

That's how you work with narcissists, yes. Give them the words they want and then do what you do.

EDIT: (Of course the important thing is that you agree off the record, when talking one-to-one. Then make sure no cameras catch you saying anything concrete.)

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Someone please tell Carney this because he seems to have gotten the "agree with narcissist to appease and get him to shut up" part and forgotten the "don't sell out your own citizens" part of this deal