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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago (10 children)

Imagine what the economy would look like if they spent 30 billion on wages.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 45 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They'll happily burn mountains of profits on that stuff, but not on decent wages or health insurance.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Some of them won't even pay to replace broken office chairs for the employees they forced to RTO.

[–] mrductape@eviltoast.org 7 points 6 days ago

Wages or health insurance are a very known cost, with a known return. At some point the curve flattens and the return gets less and less for the money you put in. That means there is a sweet spot, but most companies don't even want to invest that much to get to that point.

AI however, is the next new thing. It's gonna be big, huge! There's no telling how much profit there is to be made!

Because nobody has calculated any profits yet. Services seem to run at a loss so far.

However, everybody and their grandmother is into it, so lots of companies feel the pressure to do something with it. They fear they will no longer be relevant if they don't.

And since nobody knows how much money there is to be made, every company is betting that it will be a lot. Where wages and insurance are a known cost/investment with a known return, AI is not, but companies are betting the return will be much bigger.

I'm curious how it will go. Either the bubble bursts or companies slowly start to realise what is happening and shift their focus to the next thing. In the latter case, we may eventually see some AI develop that is useful.

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 days ago

Once again we see the Parasite Class playing unethically with the labour/wealth they have stolen from their employees.

[–] ushmel@piefed.world 62 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Thank god they have their metaverse investments to fall back on. And their NFTs. And their crypto. What do you mean the tech industry has been nothing but scams for a decade?

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Tech CEOs really should be replaced with AI, since they all behave like the seagulls from Finding Nemo and just follow the trends set out by whatever bs Elon starts

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[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Suppose many of the CEOs are just milking general venture capital. And those CEOs know that it's a bubble and it'll burst, but have a good enough way to predict when it will, thus leaving with profit. I mean, anyway, CEOs are usually not reliant upon company's performance, so no need even to know.

Also suppose that some very good source of free\cheap computation is used for the initial hype - like, a conspiracy theory, a backdoor in most popular TCP/IP realizations making all of the Internet's major routers work as a VM for some limited bytecode for someone who knows about that backdoor and controls two machines, talking to each other via the Internet and directly.

Then the blockchain bubble and the AI bubble would be similar in relying upon such computation (convenient for something slow in latency but endlessly parallel), and those inflating the bubbles and knowing of such a backdoor wouldn't risk anything, and would clear the field of plenty of competition with each iteration, making fortunes via hedge funds. They would spend very little for the initial stage of mining the initial party of bitcoins (what if Satoshi were actually Bill Joy or someone like that, who could have put such a backdoor, in theory), and training the initial stages of superficially impressive LLMs.

And then all this perpetual process of bubble after bubble makes some group of people (narrow enough, if they can keep the secret constituting my conspiracy theory) richer and richer quick enough on the planetary scale to gradually own bigger and bigger percent of the world economy, indirectly, of course, while regularly cleaning the field of clueless normies.

Just a conspiracy theory, don't treat it too seriously. But if, suppose, this were true, it would be both cartoonishly evil and cinematographically epic.

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I've started using AI on my CTOs request. ChaptGPT business licence. My experience so far: it gives me working results really quick, but the devil lies in the details. It takes so much time fine tuning, debugging and refactoring, that I'm not really faster. The code works, but I would have never implemented it that way, if I had done it myself.

Looking forward for the hype dying, so I can pick up real software engineering again.

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[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My experience with AI so far is that I have to waste more time fine tuning my prompt to get what I want and still end up with some obvious issues that I have to manually fix and the only way I would know about these issues is my prior experience which I will stop gaining if I start depending on AI too much, plus it creates unrealistic expectations from employers on execution time, it's the worst thing that has happened to the tech industry, I hate my career now and just want to switch to any boring but stable low paying job if I don't have to worry about going through months for a job hunt

[–] boor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Similar experience here. I recently took the official Google “prompting essentials” course. I kept an open mind and modest expectations; this is a tool that’s here to stay. Best to just approach it as the next Microsoft Word and see how it can add practical value.

The biggest thing I learned is that getting quality outputs will require at least a paragraph-long, thoughtful prompt and 15 minutes of iteration. If I can DIY in less than 30 minutes, the LLM is probably not worth the trouble.

I’m still trying to find use cases (I don’t code), but it often just feels like a solution in search of a problem….

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'll take no shit for $500, Alex.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

With how much got wasted on AI, that $500 might not be there anymore. Would you take $5?

[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago
[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago

I hope every CEO and executive dumb enough to invest in AI looses their job with no golden parachute. AI is a grand example of how capitalism is ran by a select few unaccountable people who are not mastermind geniuses but utter dumbfucks.

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 30 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Surprise, surprise, motherfxxxers. Now you'll have to re-hire most of the people you ditched. AND become humble. What a nightmare!

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Either spell the word properly, or use something else, what the fuck are you doing? Don't just glibly strait-jacket language, you're part of the ongoing decline of the internet with this bullshit.

[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 19 points 6 days ago

You're absolutely right about that, motherfucker.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 6 days ago

they will rehire, but it will be outsourced for lower wages, at least thats what the same posts on reddit of the same article is discussing.

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As expected. Wait until they have to pay copyright royalties for the content they stole to train.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago

The comments section of the LinkedIn post I saw about this, has ten times the cope of some of the AI bro posts in here. I had to log out before I accidentally replied to one.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)
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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Does this mean they'll invest the money in paying workers? No... they're just have to double down.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"Ruh-roh, Raggy!"

It's okay. All the people that you laid off to replace with AI are only going to charge 3x their previous rate to fix your arrogant fuck up so it shouldn't be too bad!

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Computer science degrees being the most unemployed degree right now leads me to believe this will actually suppress wages for some time

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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

I charge them more than I would if I was just developing for them from scratch. I USED to actually build things, but now I'm making more money doing code reviews and telling them where they fucked up with the AI and then myself and my now small team fix it.

AI and Vibe coders have made me great money to the point where I've now hired 2 other developers who were unemployed for a long time due to being laid off from companies leveraging AI slop.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love for the bubble to burst (and it will VERY soon, if it hasn't already) and I know that after it does I can retire and hope that the two people I've brought on will quickly find better employment.

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

But it's okay, because MY company is AHEAD OF THE CURVE on those 95% losses

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

How bad to you think this collapse gonna be? We gonna see a big name collapse into dust or we gonna see something akin to the Great Depression?

[–] stormeuh@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The AI bubble is going to be like the dot com bubble I think, but with the world being so heavily financialized it might spiral into something like 2008 or worse...

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

We’ll see the beginning of a crash in about a year and the crash probably won’t end for 7-10 years.

We’re looking at a full scale shift in the way large scale orgs are running their businesses; and it’s a shift a lot of them will need to pivot from once they realize it’s not working.

[–] ShittDickk@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

hello, welcome to taco bell, i am your new ai order specialist. would you like to try a combo of the new dorito blast mtw dew crunchwrap?

spoken at a rate of 5 words a minute to every single person in the drive thru. the old people have no idea how to order with a computer using key words.

[–] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. No shit. wtf did they think was gonna generate returns? They wanna run ads in the middle if responses?

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[–] 8000gnat@reddthat.com 9 points 6 days ago

he'll yeah, lose money you fuckers

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Why do they keep throwing their money away on it?

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 8 points 6 days ago

Reading the article, the conclusions seem to line up with what I experience. Namely the part where it says that individual users found a productivity boost.

At my company, we have a bunch of AI based tools set up, and it's impressive how much of the time consuming, boring, burnout-inducing gruntwork I can offload to the robots, and instead spend more of my working hours working on things I actually want to work on.

And we also deploy things like AI search for internal knowledge bases. Being able to quickly get the information you need to complete your job, especially if that information is related to sales is definitely good for business, but I'm not even sure how you'd measure that in terms of "profit".

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