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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really wish they'd stop calling it "age verification". It's "identity verification".

[–] tfm@europe.pub 9 points 1 year ago

That would be too obvious

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're trying to control other people's children. It's evil

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they're trying to control everyone. This is so they can more easily track absolutely everyone

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're trying to do both, they're starting with children because they believe that they should have the right to control everyone's children and they're using it as a wedge issue to oppress everyone else. Fascists always start with the people with the fewest rights

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you get it. If you verify your age you're identifying yourself. They aren't "starting with children." They're only using children as an excuse to identify everyone. It isn't about getting children off of these sites. It's about tracking anybody online.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its probably more difficult to block multiple mastodon instances than the single bluesky site.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem isn't that the state is blocking it; its that they threatened to impose a $10,000 fine for each user who can access the site without first proving their age.

You can afford that risk if you live outside the US. Not if you're a US corporation

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If a minor hosted their own instance for friends, would the state fine them $10,000/pop?

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something I do wonder about these laws: could a person self-hosting a private fedi instance that only they have an account on, argue that they meet age verification requirements by virtue of personally knowing the age of the only user? Or at that point would the whole network of federated servers count as the "platform" rather than the instance?

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Missisippi lawmakers are too idiotic to know what the reducers is and their law enforcement is too busy to learn what a fediverse is to enforce it

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And that's where you'd be wrong. It's the fediverse's time to shine, really.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I assume the hoster would know the age of his friends? Or is the law more spesific in how the verification must happen.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, a detail but:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/supreme-court-lets-mississippi-age-verification-law-go-into-effect-for

It's considered likely to be unconstitutional.

The ruling now allows Mississippi to enforce its social media law while case continues in the lower court. In the ruling, Kavanaugh also cited several district court rulings opposing similar age-verification laws, concluding that "the Mississippi law is likely unconstitutional."

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

Don't think the constitution has mattered for a while, mate.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't SCOTUS recently uphold one of these age verification laws?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago

For Porn sites only

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Does this law apply to all social media/social media-type sites, or only social media websites under the umbrella of the NetChoice group?

The articles on this are all frustratingly vague. Bluesky is not under NetChoice so I assume all social media sites will eventually be blocking MS IPs?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that it applies to every site which hosts any NSFW content, whether or not minors can access it

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I'm curious. If this law is in play in Mississippi now, are Mississippians being prompted for their ID on Discord, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit etc? I would check myself but my VPN doesn't have a Mississippi server.

If not, and they're not bothering, then why is Bluesky reacting like this specifically?

[–] percent@infosec.pub 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kinda wish the big companies would do the same and just block the states that pass these laws. Like, the state just loses access to a big chunk of the internet as soon as the bill passes, prompting an uproar and a learning opportunity for those lawmakers.

Obviously that's probably unrealistic, but I can dream 🙂

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PornHub blocked us in Florida.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah but that's a porn site, not Discord, Reddit, Instagram, X, etc. A porn site is at least understandable. I mean, people have had to show ID to buy physical porn for years, so it's at least not a new concept. (I would never upload my PII in exchange for porn, but I can at least understand the logic.)

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bluesky likely doesn't want to deal with the hassle and the percentage of users from the state that use it is so minimal they just don't view it as worthwhile.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I suppose it's more me being curious about why the bigger-boys aren't using age-ID there.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

They can afford the fines?

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m about ready to cancel my internet and buy a book. Maybe even go outside.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Extreme times, extreme measures...?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

These laws will make Americans seek escape from empire monitoring through VPNs. Empire will coopt the VPNs and then democrats accessing Bluesky without identity verification will be charged with hacking crimes.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know the law must be bad if they block Mississippi due to this, but not the UK.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With the UK, they can block content that's known to be NSFW. With Mississippi, they get fined if kids access the site at all if somebody else on there sees something NSFW.

Jesus christ, that's even worse.

[–] LemUser@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Didn't some woman shoot up Google headquarters because of some age verification process on YouTube where she specifically made makeup videos geared toward children and lost all her revenue or subscribers?