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Woah woah woah... We can do this?
I can make a billboard that says "legalise shooting poor people, vote Act" and that's legal so long as I put a disclaimer in tiny writing at the bottom?
What about Facebook advertising, we know micro-targeting happens where people get ads that only show them policies they are likely to support. Can I pay for ads that show real Act policies, like "remove all building regulations, vote Act"? And target them at people likely to be non-billionaire Act voters?
Honestly, if you were careful with your phrasing, you probably could.
ACT are in favour of less health and safety regulations in the building industry, for example.
In this case the advertisement is an out and out lie. Apparently you can buy a billboard to push any lie you want in the political sphere.
I suspect this is just the beginning. When the election rolls around the various right wing groups will spend hundreds of thousands buying billboards and advertising on social media peddling all kinds of lies just like they did in the US.
They know that the right wing voters can't and won't distinguish between a lie and the truth and don't even care about the truth. They just want to be told how evil greens and labour are and NACT are certainly willing and able to tell them what they want to hear.
Mark my words, there will be our versions of pizzagate and adrenochrome blood harvesting conspiracy theories being spread around.
We are so fucked. We have a gullible population that trusts what they read in the media, we have a media unwilling to challenge the the lies, we have deep pockets who want tax cuts and privatisation and we have parties willing to give them everything they want in exchange for golden parachutes after they leave parliament.
I guess I just assumed there were strict political advertising rules. Every political ad says something like "authorised by Act party [etc]" so I assumed this meant political advertising had to be authorised by the party. But perhaps this is just so you know that ad was actually published by them (otherwise it would be false advertising I guess).
Man, this would open up so many opportunities if I had the money to spend 20 cents per view on facebook ads!
This was done by the sensible sentencing trust so it's third party expenditures. It doesn't count as campaigning. You are going to see a lot more of this stuff. Farmers groups, business groups, churches etc are going to be going all out to make sure NACT gets another term to continue to push for deregulation, dismantling of environmental protections, privatisation, cutting of services, and pushing a more christian fundamentalist agenda on to the public.
So hang on - is this done defensively because they're worried about the left? I mean we all know the clown coalition are struggling but it's not like they've got credible opposition either. Maybe this was just opportunism?
I think the timing of the police defunding is interesting. Paul using KRS One's old classic in a DJ set is not surprising, but an MP acting as a DJ in their spare time sounds like classic Green faux-pas potential! I've nothing against it but they're consistently leaning towards an unprofessional angle it's frustrating ...because I believe(d?) in them.
At least they made a good joke for a change, I guess. A shame it's such awful childishness from our 'leaders' - what a disgrace.
I think they felt this was something that needed to be brought to the attention of the NZ public?
Given that law and order was a key item last election, and something Nat-Act-NZF were seen as being strong on, probably with good reason, it's a spectacular own goal for one of their MPs to be making these statements. Especially considering how dodgy parts of Wellington feel some days.
I find this frustrating, because I'm someone that works for wages, and spends as much time as possible in the outdoors, so I should be supporting either Labour or Green, but neither party really appeals to me right now.
The greens are so cooked. I hope to god they dont drag down labour. Right wingers constantly say "the greens and labour" even though labour has nothing to do with the scandal and opposes that green policy.
They have such bad optics with every age group except genz.
Don't take the bait. What Tamatha said is so much more mild and considered than this. These ads are bad faith faux outrage
I know but I still disagree with her comments and policy/position on many issues. The greens are to far to the left of me which means they're probably way to far left for vast majority of the country. What she is saying is dumb and if it hurts the greens thats good but if that spills over and hurts labour then thats terrible for the economic and social trajectory of the country.
To me, every party except labour is harmful to the country.
Realistically, a vote for Labour is a vote for a Labour-Green coalition, so it's a viable concern.
And they just cannot stop fucking up. I think Labour is taking a step to the left and trying to take some of their support with policies like a CGT.
