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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've wondered this for a while: Insurance is a contractual obligation on the insurer's part, right? What's stopping me from just suing them for breach of contract rather than going through their appeals process if they illegally deny my claim?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What’s stopping me from just suing them for breach of contract rather than going through their appeals process if they illegally deny my claim?

Medicaid is a government provision that has no contract that underpins it. With something like United Healthcare, there is a bargained for exchange of mutual consideration (you give $ and UHC provides insurance subject to all the terms and conditions in the contract).

That is not something in Medicaid because Medicaid isn't getting anything in exchange for its health coverage. The government can put whatever restrictions on it that it wants. The benefit comes from the government having one more contribution to the ecconomic system. However, that is too attenuated of a benefit to say that there was a bargained-for exchange.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago

Probably some terms and conditions you signed as part of the contract

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago

What's stopping me from just suing them for breach of contract rather than going through their appeals process if they illegally deny my claim?

The cost of a lawyer that can hope to match theirs. They don't care if it loses them money as long as it deters others from trying the same.

[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here's your head of Medicare.

Good Ol' Doctor Oz.

Big profile you should be able to track him down easy in the wee hours of the morning to ask some questions as any good citizen of someone representing their interests.

https://www.hhs.gov/about/leadership/mehmet-oz.html

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 days ago

I'm still incapable of fully accepting that's real.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ok, as a non american, that's not a real government site, right? this is a good joke?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump likes to appoint people he sees on TV.

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[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So they will approve more claims to avoid paying, right... Right?

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I said, lying.

The machine won't let me get treatment for the thing that makes me narrate my actions, I explained with a weary sigh.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

I didn't know I still had any faith to lose in the insurance industry. At this point anyone in a management position is undeniably evil, in all senses of the word. I wish nothing but the worst for them.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If it makes anyone feel better, they denied everything when it was humans running the show too

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[–] fedupwithbureaucracy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

ID every executive who works for the company. Nothing is gonna happen unless we know who they are.

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[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Garbage humans in, garbage AI out

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's a fucking idiotic idea.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

No, it's fine and makes total sense if your goal is to incentivize your company's suppliers and affiliates to KILL PEOPLE.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

what the fuck kind of country looks to save billions of dollars spent on healthcare for their own citizens instead of waste fraud & abuse by the uber wealthy, or the military?

you can have an insanely strong military without the waste & fraud that exists in the US

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[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

What’s the fucking point of paying for it anymore? Might as well not even have it at this point…

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

This is FUCKING enraging.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The term 'perverse incentive' springs to mind, except there'll be nothing unexpected about the consequences.

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[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago
[–] AngularViscosity@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So what's the point of having insurance if you can't claim what you need?

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