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[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 120 points 2 weeks ago (22 children)

Please China, slap back with an even higher number. See if you can out bluff the annoying orange. I feel like American consumers are way more reliant on Chinese stuff than China is relying on American goods.

[–] known_unknown@lemmy.world 38 points 2 weeks ago

local tyrant shoots self in foot, claims trade deficit with guns

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 87 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Dear world,

Just fucking embargo us already. Make the GOP remove the fucker from office.

Sincerely,

A desperate American

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 44 points 2 weeks ago

You're well on your way to effectively embargoing yourselves by the looks of it

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

~~Make the~~ Americans remove every GOP ~~remove~~ ~~the fucker from office~~ head.

ftfy.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We really should be handling our own shit here.

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago

I would but my military doesn't have nukes

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 2 weeks ago

Make the GOP remove the fucker from office.

And replace him with... a more competent fascist? Tariffs are, if anything, lowering the difficulty of getting the fascists out of office by causing real harm to the average person before the Trump regime has consolidated enough power to stop a mass movement. Tariffs are the silver lining in the shit sandwich that is project 2025, and rather than just Trump all the GOP and most of the DNC should be banished from politics effective immediately.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You have a second amendment precisely for circumstances like this. Clean up your own yard.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sic Semper some damned Tyrannis already.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is our mess, probably need to start fucking up magats

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What we have right now is the best opportunity to end this administration peacefully by causing a GOP revolt against him. But to do that, we need the world to help make this as painful as possible.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but I’m not seeing any magats doing anything other than mental gymnastics to convince themselves that this is fine. I think they need to start getting their asses beat down for voting for this shit show and regressing us 100 years at least

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In some ways that’s what Trump wants. If people can’t buy (afford) the item then they will make it in the US. Once tariffs and markup make it profitable to manufacture in the US then someone will make it there.

However if the raw material or components aren’t available or there is a limited supply (export quota from china) then it will never be adorable to manufacture them in the US. China has already cut some exports to the US along these lines.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

Well, the problem here is time. Trump (and the electoral cycle tbh) is so goddamn volatile and supply chains take so long to organize, that a change really is as good as a rest in this case. By the time they manage to re-organize supply chains and get new domestic supply off the ground, it'll be three or four years from now probably, and at the rate things are changing, who fucking knows what things will look like by then. It's just as possible that all this tariff stuff ends tomorrow as it is to persist, so it's safer all around to wait and see.

[–] known_unknown@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago

I'm announcing 104% tariffs on wal-mart due to their frankly insane trade deficit with my family: they refuse to buy ANYTHING from us, and you think we're just supposed to take that lying down???

(/s you gotta laugh to keep from crying)

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The S&P is trying to ride up on any good news but Trump just keeps on waterboarding the economy, hahahaha...

(RIP my TFSA investment account, but it is plain hilarious at this point)

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I want to know what the discussion was like...

"105 percent are you crazy? That's too high!"

"But 103 won't send enough of a message!"

"Better order up some coffee, this could take all night."

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Apparently it was an arbitrary extra 50% on top of the recent 54%, which was the supposed trade deficit plus existing tariffs. I'm not saying it's not batshit, but the new figure wasn't a totally random specific number.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So isn't only somewhere around 72 percent from original?

[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Now you're asking them to do correct calculations?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 2 weeks ago

You know this is a genius move because they really did the math. 103% just wouldn't do it and 105% is just too far even for them.

Big brains for sure. Lol

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

An attack on China is an attack on US allies that supply China with resources. Australia hasn't fully woken up to this bastard act with our little 10% tariff and history of acting like a 51st state but we might be as fucked as Canada before sanity returns to the US.

China can't beat the US in this battle but all they have to do is endure the pain and wait for the US to lose interest. So ultimately China wins. But we all lose through this stupidity (probably shouldn't really call it stupidity as it diminishes any bad intentions at work here. There are people in this admin who should understand the consequences). Fuck Trump and his administration and the Republican party and their voters and the apathetic fuckwits who didn't vote. No single person is responsible for this and no single person can fix it. People need to man the fuck up and fix the shit they have unleashed.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I imagine China can not only win this but come out with the worlds reserve currency.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I disagree on that. The Euro is the second most widely held currency and is a more obvious choice. Working constructively with China is economic reality. Submitting to them is unnecessary. This isn't post-WW2. I don't think we need a single reserve currency.

There is no doubt China is going to benefit greatly. A huge number of developing countries have been deserted by the US that first walked away from soft power through US Aid then penalised the poorest countries with outrageous tariffs. China has been by far the smarter player.

[–] gressen@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago

The one thing that benefits from that is nature. Maybe this will at least put a damper on overconsumption. Otherwise it's a shit situation for everyone around.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But really, what does China make that the US wants? Solar panels, batteries, electronics, boards games, rare earth elements, industrial manufacturing equipment, drones, and ships?

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

It has this energy

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Now cars too but I don't think we can get them

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I was trying to think of stuff that you couldn't really get anywhere else. Electronics is a very broad category and there's stuff you can get from elsewhere and there's also a bunch of important stuff you can't get from China (you have to buy it from Taiwan instead). And you can get board games from Germany / Poland so maybe that one was dumb.

Anyway, my point was that while China makes the best batteries, hands down, you can get the rest of the car from other places. Like Mexico, Germany or Japan. Actually China makes some very good electric engines for cars as well. But I don't think they are selling those without the rest of the car.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a European, I must make a list of everything I should buy from AliExpress when the prices will drop.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It'll be the usual for me: magnets of various sizes and shapes, box of assorted screws, several ESP32-based boards, and one funky gadget to tie that off nicely.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm an ESP8266 enjoyer but those ESP32 has become cheap! Are there big differences between different boards?

Yes,magnets and screws&nuts, cant have too many of these!

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

I’m glad I moved out. Now I’m in a country where Chinese made stuff are plentiful, of good quality and cheaper than they ever were in the US. I get to keep more of my paycheck.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Magats are rationalizing this shit already and saying it’s fine so don’t hold any hope in them ever coming back to reality

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