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AnswerQuestion no. 1425 (General part) from the Danish Parliament's Legal Affairs Committee:

"Will the minister elaborate on the minister's statement to TV2 on the 21st?"

August 2024, where the minister says: "We have to break with the totally mistaken notion that it is every man's freedom to communicate on encrypted messaging services

(…)”?”

Answer:

We know that social media and encrypted services are unfortunately largely is used to facilitate many forms of crime. There are examples on how criminal gangs recruit completely through encrypted platforms young people to commit, among other things, serious crimes against persons. It is an expression of a cynicism that is almost completely incomprehensible.

We therefore need to look at how we can overcome this problem. Both in terms of what the services themselves do, but also what we from the authorities can do. It must not be the case that the criminals can hide behind encrypted services that authorities cannot access access to.

Therefore, we, as a government, will also strengthen the police's capabilities in the area of ​​decryption, of course under appropriate legal guarantees, as is also the case today. In addition, the Ministry of Justice has The Criminal Justice Committee has just started working on a terms of reference that will look at the challenges that technological developments present to the police investigation, including the use of encrypted messaging services.

I also note that steps have been taken within the EU towards a strengthened regulation of, among other things, digital information services and social media platforms.

For example, the European Commission has proposed a new Regulation on rules for preventing and combating sexual abuse of children. The proposed regulation contains rules on obligations for certain online services to minimize the risk of their services being misused for online child sexual abuse, and the services can, if necessary, be required to track down, report, remove and block access to material showing sexual abuse of children.

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 6 points 35 minutes ago

Danes, if you re-elect this man, you are condoning this outrageous position.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 points 3 minutes ago

What do the other political parties in denmark say?

Sounds like they need new leadership.

[–] sp3ctre@feddit.org 20 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

What is actually going on with denmark? What is their problem with privacy? Have they always been like that?

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 3 points 55 minutes ago

I don't know about Denmark, but e.g. in Sweden tax declarations are considered public information. In many areas in the Netherlands, you are able to view the complete ground floor of houses from the street. The idea of privacy differs between cultures.

Nonetheless, I'm convinced every minister of justice would state the same, even in the most privacy fokussed countries.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago

After all, that is a privilege reserved for politicians.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 22 points 2 hours ago

We must break with the totally erroneous perception that ostensibly democratic governments can be trusted.

[–] jjpamsterdam@feddit.org 39 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It's taken only about 35 years for the "free" countries of Europe to adopt the same mindset that the Eastern Bloc used to have. In large parts of Germany, for example, people can still remember how it was when you could expect your government to listen in on any and every private conversation. It wasn't good.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 33 points 3 hours ago

"And also at the same time compromise the security of every computing system in the country, lay the foundation for massive abuse of power and murder the concept of privacy. It's all for their own good."

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I feel like this man has some mighty nasty skeletons in his closet if he was openly advocating for "rules for thee but not for me"

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Does Denmark not have a secret of correspondence/letters kind of constitutional right?

[–] polakkenak@feddit.dk 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

We do and it's part of our constitution (same situation as Germany about not being updated). Not that any of the recent governments have cared about this minor detail.

We only recently got rid of another law, which required logging of calls and texts by telecommunications.

This only ended because the EU courts ruled it was against the right to privacy, and it still took them 8 years to drag their feet following the ruling to abolish the law.

Various government from both sides of the political spectrum have slowly introduced, or paved the way for, more mass surveillance, but the current government has been extremely vocal about surveillance.

Edit: penal code says "sealed" messages are off limits. Not that they care πŸ™„

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

We (Germany) do, but it has never been updated to include electronic communication.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago

That's actually wrong. Art. 10 (1) GG protects the secret of the letter, secret of postal service and the secret of telecommunication (Brief-, Post- und Fernmeldegeheimnis).

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 3 points 50 minutes ago

Doesn't need to be updated, electronic communication was included in the very first draft in 1948.

If it hadn't already been established long ago, vile creeps like Peter Hummelgaard would lobby against postal privacy, too.

[–] tal@olio.cafe 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

August 2024, where the minister says: "We have to break with the totally mistaken notion that it is every man's freedom to communicate on encrypted messaging services

Are you going to prevent people from using e2e encryption systems that run atop existing non-encrypted systems?

https://lemmy.world/post/28131754/16406545

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You bet they will. Right now its impractical, because a lot of people of it, but after laws like chat control pass it'll be easier to make encryption illegal altogether because a lot fewer people will go through the hurdles. Only criminals and deviants will use encryption. And you're no deviant, are you citizen?

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If it was actually about catching criminals they would also care about this kind of thing, but they don't, they wanto to control the masses of generally law-abiding citizens who might maybe install Signal messenger while it's still legal.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

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