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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sat internet is so overhyped. As it's limited by physics cell towers will always outperform them. Simple as that.

  • cities - cables and 5g
  • country side - 4g and cables in high concentration areas
  • middle of nowhere or war zones - low orbit sats.

This is purely a security issue not a consumer one.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

For the dishes: I don't know the details of the 2 systems, but is there no way to retrofit the Starlink dishes to use Eutelsat's constellation? I mean if we exclude the legal IP mess for reverse-engineering the electronics and software.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We all know why CNBC. You could have just posted the title.

Because the drug addled used car salesman who's currently about to default on his Twitter loans decided to embrace his roots and started throwing up seig heils and is currently having a crack team of 4chan incels dismantle a government while he threatens the world and works to make what he's doing here happen everywhere.

Dude is a comic book villain. Villain of the week level. No real staying power. Either he'll go broke or die from a ketamine overdose before Xmas. And what a gift that will be. I hope it happens on video.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

die from a ketamine overdose

Please stop, I'm old and I can only get so excited.

[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

“European Starlink rival” is a bit far fetched when there’s merely rumours that they might be able to offer a similar service. But that’s the stock market for you.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They have both GEO and LEO satellites. Not on the scale of Starlink (for LEO), but they do have a network.

I am not commenting on the nature of the stock market or anything like that. Just pointing out that they do have a working network, it's not 100% speculation (like you see with crypto schemes).

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're correct but their LEO constellation is over 10x smaller than Starlink, so they've still got a lot of catching up to do.

They are doing much better than other fabled starlink competitors though, like amazon kuiper which is still not a real thing after all this time.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They have one strong competitive advantage that Starlink will never have; they are not American.

By definition, you cannot trust an American service. Even if the people who run a given service are not degenerates, there are enough degenerates in the US that they could elect a degenerate who will fuck you over.

[–] GrosPapatouf@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They have very, very different business models. Constellation size is meaningless on its own, you have to account for the satellites capabilities, orbits, and the number and needs of your customers.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz -1 points 9 months ago

That's true and I even thought about trying to investigate one of their satellites bandwidth capabilities versus one starlink satellite before I commented. But ultimately it doesn't really matter because we're talking about them being a rival to starlink so In the context of this conversation, they need to match their capacity and capabilities in all aspects to be a worthy rival.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Now they have to offer a similar service. No pressure then 😊

[–] 0rg45mlc5uck3r84@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They do offer a better service, albeit marginally - better download speeds, lower latency, slower upload speeds though. Problem is their antennas - they cost 8.000€ compared to 300€ the starlink ones...

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eutelsat are aimed at a different market: infrastructure. Their intended customers are larger and more demanding: research outposts, small villages, oil rigs, mobile phone towers, ships, and so on, as opposed to Starlink who focus on consumers directly, which is much more low-stakes. I'm genuinely curious if Eutelsat can move into Starlink's territory.

[–] 0rg45mlc5uck3r84@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

They will surely do in the future. For example in Spain the government is subsidizing satellite internet through Hispasat for remote communities. I'm sure many other governments do the same in their backyard. If EU throws starlink contracts out the window and start subsidizing EU satellite related businesses and startups things will definitely improve for everybody and the more contracts they sign the lower the prices will go for their clients.