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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

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Modlog: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/25693?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21053985 , banned by @goat@sh.itjust.works

For context, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, and got into a few arguments.

More context:

It started (to my knowledge) with this comment, goat pinged db0 after he downvoted a comment

a note on the uyghurs (click to show

For the record, I believe that the Uyghurs are mistreated by the CCP, and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses, but there's a lack of evidence that it's a genocide specifically (especially since it seems to target the religion, rather than the ethnic group).

Goat banned IndustryStandard, leading to this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/ leading to goat commenting this:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21070262

He mentions this:

We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.

Which I find ironic, since there was some vote manipulation happening, which goat did nothing about (and could be behind), but I'll get to that later.

After some more arguments, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, saying that letting tankie users engage on dbzer0 comms means other users are tankies:


source

He said that it's different for LW (lemmy.world) and SJW (sh.itjust.works, not the other word). He then poster the "Tank Man" picture to !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, as he expected us to retaliate (being tankies, according to him). We did not, in fact, retaliate: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21089819

He also posted this in tankiejerk: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52268655, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20733015.

He also may have done vote manipulation, and at the very least allowed it.
Take, for example, this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21091723
Per lemvotes, it was downvoted by the following users:

The relevant ones here are:

They have all downvoted exclusively arguments against goat and others, and were made almost at the same time.

After a bit more arguing (I'm not posting the specific comments because it's tedious, and they're easy to see by scrolling through goat's profile.) goat decided to ban all dbzer0 users from meanwhileongrad, I think this comment marks when he decided to do this, but I may be wrong.

note on the post that comment was in reply to

I think this reply (by unruffled) was taken out of context. Unruffled is absolutely not defending what's happening to the Uyghurs, they're saying that a lot of people have a double standard, where they will not hesitate to condemn the Uyghur genocide, but hesitate on the gaza one, especially when the gaza one is more severe and urgent. To quote them directly:

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying but of course they misrepresented it. You know exactly what Americans are like. They couldn't give a shit about the uyghurs, except as a way to China bash and feel superior. I also explicitly said later in the comments I agreed it was a genocide. They're just doin' the usual bad faith takes.

Feel free to quote me lol

Since this goat had been banned from dbzer0 for being hostile: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=63615

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[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 points 3 months ago

the dude who has admitted on Lemmy to being a former member of several neo-nazi forums because he finds nazis "interesting" is being an asshole. that's shocking.

[–] ChadMcTruth@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PLEASE DELETE THIS POST IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL CONTACT THE AUTHORITIES

GDNW

THAT STANDS FOR GOAT DID NOTHING WRONG

STAND STRONG GOAT I LOVE YOU

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This reads like a trump post.

[–] ChadMcTruth@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

thank you i have several posters of him on my ceiling

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses

If you believe that, then you believe there is a genocide. Because cultural erasure is genocide.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Every genocide in history has been accompanied by mass murder... except this one apparently. 🤔

[–] Boo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The definition of genocide by the UN convention:

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

If the target is to destroy a group as a group and any of these acts are committed, it is genocide. Mass murder is the "prevalent" act, but it is not a requirement for genocide.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And yet the UN and ICJ don't call it genocide.

That's because there is no evidence of intent to destroy their ethnic group. That's why mass murder is basically necessary, because that's what shows intent. Transferring children to different families can be done without intent, I'm sure you can imagine situations where someone has their children taken that are unrelated to genocide? I know I can.

[–] Boo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

The ICJ is a court and as such slow. As for statements showing intent, there is a plethora of statements, from comparing Palestinians to biblical "Amalek" (Netanyahu), over saying it is "unfortunate" that the world won't let Israel just starve all people in Gaza to death (Ben Gvir) to public broadcast employees saying they want to commit another Holocaust in Gaza.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that so many of these are empty and stupid anti-communist smears is fascinating. Vietnam did genocide against South Vietnam, collectivization of farmland in the USSR was genocide against land owning peasants? Really?

Deeply unserious, to the point of actually being genocide denial. Genocide is the crime of crimes. This "cultural genocide" invention actually equivocates the crimes of the worst regimes in history with what are, ultimately, not even crimes. Look at Xinjiang province and compare it to Gaza. It's fucking night and day.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (7 children)

This “cultural genocide” invention

It was "invented" in the very same book that coined the term genocide. Cultural genocide has been a part of genocide since the very inception of the concept of genocide. I shouldn't have to explain that multiple things can fit in the same category without being equal. Playing whataboutism games as an excuse to deny ongoing genocides is a supremely bad look.

We're more than happy (at least those of us on the left) to admit Australia's "stolen generation" was an act of genocide. I'm not as well-informed about it, but my understanding is that Canada's "residential school system" has been even more widely recognised as such. The concept of cultural genocide is pretty well established and widely accepted in leftist circles. The only exception to this seems to be tankies trying to deny China's own examples of it in Tibet and Xinjiang.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Db0 is a bit of a power tripper NGL. He is very accepting of everyone's beliefs as long as they don't contradict his own.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been watching this drama with great amusement.

It seems like goat is trolling an entire instance and I think that’s just the bee’s knees.

Not that I have a problem with db0 I think you guys are cool and aren’t HilariousChaos which is cool too.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I feel db0 and hc are the same just on opposite sides politically. Both get called extremists by the other side for tolerating people on their own side. A real symbol of federated tolerance would be those 2 instances being able to federate with eachother. I've spoken to the admins on both sides via matrix and they are both reasonable and I would like to see them both come to an agreement of refederating and agreeing that their own users need to take responsibility for their behaving on and being accepting of other peoples instances.

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[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Whatever man. irrelephant, you are pretty free with your own mod activities, don't respond when questioned, and basically don't discuss what you do. So why would anyone care if you don't like some shit? Why talk to you about it, when you won't talk about the shit you do as a mod?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

I restored the post, because I was bored.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's almost like the Lemmy mod structure promotes authoritarian abuse and is extremely flawed. I feel like more leftists should understand it's more about the systems than the individuals.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're not wrong, but in this case they were complaining about me removing this post (which I restored, because why not), and not answering DMs they sent, which I did not receive.
I didn't even ban the person.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 months ago

Well no. I banned you.

I was the last poster in your old comm, and the first one in the new comm after your migration. Whether you even realized it, that's what you lose when you don't communicate.

And I stopped posting after our encounter.

I'll now contribute there again. Because, why not?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait, when was I questioned?

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Just look in your chat log. I've a pretty unique nic, as do you.
But you don't respond to public questions in your comms either.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which account was it? All the messages on my lemm.ee one are gone (instance is gone).

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I guess my instance purges old direct messages? I had no idea they went away after a time. I don't have it either.

Ya took down my silly cat pic in that dead-ass iiitttttt com. Off topic. Didn't reply to me.
It's old news. I just said screw you and stopped posting to your comm.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I had guessed it was that. I mean, it was off topic, unless I'm missing something.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I dd not agree. You did not reply. And not replying seems to be your default in public as well.

Like, you moved the comm to another instance. There was a lot of subsequent discussion of that. People wanted to know what the comm was even about. Thats about the time you nuked my cat pic. No - comment.

You seemed to be mining the old comm and recycling content. Nope, you had no comment.

I have no issue in general with you or your comm. I still read it.
But its fun watching you whine about another mod.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The comm isn't mine, I just mod it. I try to reply to stuff, but I can miss things (like that DM).
I'm pretty sure I explained the comm to most people who asked about it.
I restored the cat picture, but I think it should have been left removed.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 2 points 2 months ago

I did not expect that. Its OC. Wally is my co-cat. There hadnt been any posts in a while. Yes, I was drunk and stirring things up. Thanks.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think almost everyone involved in this drama is being extremely rude and unreasonable and needs to take a break from Lemmy for a bit. But yeah this is obviously petty and ridiculous.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To me it's yet another example of why we need private voting or this place is just going to eat itself alive. I've already basically stopped voting because of this new vote drama trend.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It becomes even easier to manipulate votes with private voting.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

Fake Internet points don't matter.

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