"FSD" should always be in quotes. What a joke from a company run by a mentally ill self proclaimed Nazi.
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it seemed fine at the start, then it suddenly pulled to the hard right.
They made it about 2.5% of the planned trip on Tesla FSD v13.9 before crashing the vehicle.
A ha ha ha ha
and how much of the $2T promised did Edolf Twitler cut from government spending?
Fast, artistic, high-definition, simply stunning
They said it was the latest software but did not say whether the hardware was the latest. I wonder if it had HW 4, higher resolution cameras or the front bumper camera
Since they've gotten rid of LIDAR, there has been nothing but trouble. Such a monumentally stupid decision to try to brute force things the software route.
They never had LIDAR, only a few companies do (like Waymo). Teslas used to have RADAR but even that was removed.
to rely on cameras...because it doesn't ever rain or snow in southern california.
Who cares, Tesla doesn't have FSD software or hardware
No one has full self-driving yet, but it does have potential to change the world if anyone does succeed. I’m interested in all developments toward that, regardless of Nazi ceos
You know what will change the world?
When governments finally give bicycles a chance, like in the Netherlands. THAT solves a multitude of issues, saves incredible amounts of money for both governments and citizens alike, and will lower the car death toll by a vast majority.
Oh, and it also lowers pollution (yes, EVs still pollute) by factors and saves tonnes of energy as hauling two tonnes of steel to buy a bottle of milk is just insanity
That ignores the full self driving for a second, which still doesn't exist anywhere and won't come into existence for another good decade at least (We're FAR away from that) but that will be the real revolution
Sure but that’s even further away, at least in the us. We’ve had 80 years of our biggest growth planning cities around cars and fixing that is going to take a generation or more.
We’re starting. There’s been steady migration to cities over the last couple decades. More places are paying attention to walkability, transit oriented growth. Bicycle infrastructure is starting to be built out.
I live in one of the places that’s been making decent progress, although my bad knees, people’s bad driving, and the area’s bad weather make cycling the least attractive transportation. But all the same design principles also encourage walkability and transit.
shareholder-influencers
I did not know my body could feel this revolted
I don't care what shareholders do behind closed doors, but they shouldn't be allowed to shove it down our throats in public where children can see it!
(Obviously sarcasm, they shouldn't be allowed to exist behind closed doors either)
Have you heard that they call themselves "rebellionaires"?
Rebellends
The internet and social media have given everyone worldwide voices, and that's both good and bad.
And there is so much pessimism for the future that lots of people are willing to sell their souls to cash out while they're still here.
Well, there core of every Tech-related mania since at least the Net boom in the late 90s has been people invested into the mania passing themselves as just people giving friendly advice online to try and convince others to jump into the bandwagon in order for their own stakes to go up in value.
This kind of shit has been more than normalized for decades.
The only unusual thing thing here is that they're open about having an investment in TSLA.
I can't hear you over me holding my tulips so tightly my knuckles are cracking.
They point out in this incident and an incident from the author where, when you’re relying on Autopilot, even when you see something well in advance, you hesitate to react because you expect the car to do it for you.
I’ve always felt the myriad of safety features that protect the driver through corrective input/output are more harm than good. If you rely on your lane assist, adaptive cruise control, and proximity sensors, you aren’t prepared to react when they fail.
You shouldn’t be under the impression that a car will save your life. You should always have the mindset that you are responsible for the vehicle. If someone hit my small car because a sensor failed on theirs, I don’t give a shit if your system failed. You’re the responsible driver.
If you rely on your lane assist, adaptive cruise control, and proximity sensors, you aren’t prepared to react when they fail.
Yes! They're making people lazy and inattentive behind the wheel.
Anything but proper training, testing, and enforcement.
Its basically LLM brain rot but for driving.
We have an interesting highway near me where the HOV reverses direction for morning /evening commutes. When I come home from my son's and it's going the opposite direction, the stupid car would happily plough the multiple striped lift arms with red ribbons and flashing red lights at the entrance.
You are an idiot to have driven with AP/FSD and waited as long as they did.
That's an easy argument to make but the reality is not that simple. Determining how many accidents are caused by these systems is much easier than determining how many accidents they have prevented. When an accident happens there's something that can be investigated. There's data. But when the system saves you and you go on your merry way, it's never reported anywhere. The statistics have a very extreme bias here.
Accidents per miles driven takes successful trips into account.
This will sound ridiculous and I’m not claiming it’s even a valid feeling, but I’d rather die by my own hand with my input being involved than to have a safety system fail and have no involvement from me.
At least then I know there was some action I could have maybe taken to prevent it. But when it’s a safety system (still under heavy development) that fails, I’d feel way more cheated. Someone convinced me I would be safe and now they’ve lied.
The safety systems would work perfectly if the cars could communicate, or more robustly if they could be mechanically linked together for the "easy" (highway) portion of the drive. Imagine a lane with nose to tail cars all doing exactly the same thing. At exits (predefined stops) you could get off to change or stay on the same one. Put a little station there with bathrooms and food.
Maybe we could even replace that highway lane with steel tracks and the tires with steel wheels for lower friction.
Damn you just always re-derive the train
Simply linking the cars wouldn’t be enough to address an issue like this though. They still need to individually recognize something like the debris this car ran over and deal with it appropriately.
If cars are linked to share data like this then I can easily see a scenario where one model of car with really good sensors sends a warning saying “hey, there’s road debris here”. But subsequent cars still need to be able to see it and avoid it as well. If the sensors in a following car aren’t as good as the sensors in the first car then that second car could still strike it.
Debris doesn’t remain stationary. Each vehicle that hits it will move it, possibly break it into multiple pieces, etc. And eventually, either through that process or by a person moving it, it will cease being a hazard.
I was just jokingly rederiving a train instead. I think automated cars is mostly really silly
This is the massive gulf between level 3 and 4 systems, and why level 3 is potentially dangerous.
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However, after returning it to the Turo owner and having the suspension damage evaluated by Tesla, the repair job was estimated to be roughly $10,000. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a similar situation with this accident.
Hmm. That makes me wonder.
Like, it's hard for me or for Joe Blow to evaluate how effective a car company's self-driving functionality is. Requires expertise, and it's constantly changing. And ideally, I shouldn't be the one to bear cost, if I can't evaluate risk, because then I'm taking on some unknown cost when purchasing the car.
And the car manufacturer isn't in a position to be objective.
But an insurer can do that.
Like, I wonder if it'd be possible to have insurers offer packages that cover cost of accidents that occur while the car is in self-driving mode. That'd make it possible to put a price tag on accidents from self-driving systems.
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Lol. But indeed nice of the Youtubers to put it to the test and also be honest with the results.
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