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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I think Social-Democrat back then meant something similar to what "Socialist" does today. Lenin was, by his own words, a Social-Democrat.

[–] TrueStalinistPatriot@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That was earlier. The Bolsheviks split from the social democratic labour party in 1903 denouncing the term social democracy

But them using the "aesthetic" of socialism to win over the workers for their own fascist benefit is true (obviously)

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

I swear I've seen his post-split works still referring to his movement as social-democrats.

Found it (1906): https://ru.wikisource.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%BC_%D0%B8_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F_(%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD)

Ответ на этот вопрос должен разъяснить очень важную разницу в буржуазно-демократической и социал-демократической постановке вопроса о религии.

The answer to this question will serve to explain the very important difference in the way the question of religion is presented by the bourgeois democrats and the Social-Democrats.

I think you are right that by 1920s that term was mostly associated with Mensheviks but I swear I've seen bolshevik references to it even in 1910s, so it wasn't as clearly defined as it is now.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago

yes -- these people were just opportunists calling themselves socialists (or "social-democrats") because it was popular among the workers

[–] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the SDP

[–] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Didn't the guy with the funny hat start as a librul? Don't tell libruls though.

[–] deathtoreddit@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well damn me cuz change it to 'we've all been libruls at one time or another' 🤷

[–] EuthanatosMurderhobo@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Weeell, we've all been libruls due to most of us being raised in liberal consensus already. No such excuse for ~~Duche~~ libruls of his time.

But more importantly, I fucked it up. Apparently I had a day of D U M B yesterday, mixing up quotes and people. He started as a socdem. He was practically put in power by Italian libruls though.

Now to remember which famous 20th century fascist used to be a liberal, so that I don't go barking mad by the end of the day... I remember there being an exception so to speak, as most fascists back then tended to be former socialists looking for "the third way".