You mean all of us average earners aren’t buying $80,000 electric cars in droves during this time of insane inflation? Weird!
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Not sure that would help that much. A good amount of Bosch's business is in manufacturing parts for internal combustion engines, that's going away in any case.
China actually has electric cars with 300km range for under $20k.
We're not allowed to buy them in the West because it would show us all how much we're getting ripped off by our rulers.
We really are stupid and paying the price everyday.
Those cars are 20k because the majority of chinese blue collar workers are treated like 19th century coal miners, with few labor laws or regulations to speak of.
We get cheap shit because of their suffering.
so that's acceptable with, (checks notes), every other Chinese made product sold in NA and Europe but not EVs... no sir, we car aboot those EV workers a lot
Same is true of almost everything you own, large groups of people stuck in poverty isn't an accident, it's on purpose and it's everywhere in this world sadly
You're peddling talking points that exist to ensure you can't a better deal due to lack of competition and artificially inflated prices.
Have you ever had a banana? Guess why they're so cheap. We still get access to them and useful idiots like you don't complain because the banana market doesn't threaten the wealth of people richer than you can comprehend.
This is the problem, right here folks. Think tanks have been working overtime to make sure people like /u/whatamlemmy can feel justified in being cut off from more competitive markets.
Don't people complain about the inhumane conditions and treatment of the laborers by banana companies all the time? lol
No, they don't.
They also don't block importing them to the US.
The working conditions for the average banana farmer is also significantly worse than the average Chinese car manufacturers.
>No, they don't
It's a topic that I've seen pop up countless number of times
I'm not going to sit here and debate with you what "all the time" is supposed to mean.
They also don’t block importing them to the US.
Conveniently ignored this part because you don't have a rebuttal.
The working conditions for the average banana farmer is also significantly worse than the average Chinese car manufacturers.
Also this one.
I'm going to ignore you now because you proved to me that you're an average idiot and not worth taking seriously. It's a shame people like you get to have more impact on the world, but that's why the world is the way it is.
Keep getting ripped off, and keep defending the people doing it. I don't expect more from you.
I focused on the specific part where I thought you were wrong. People do talk about the suffering if the banana plantation workers and it's been talked for a long time. As far as products go, that's one where the shit conditions are actually brought up often.
Yeah and let's not even talk about all the clothes people buy that end up in landfills. Created by workers in horrible working conditions.
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I need more range than 300km and I'd be all over this if it uses LifeP04 batteries. I work 48 hour shifts, but drive about 150km each direction. Which means during the winter if I wanted to round trip it I'd need a 400km range vehicle.
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You do have the Renault 4 and 5 that are reasonably priced. And I think Fiat also has a reasonably priced model.
I wouldn't call that reasonable pricing, for what I can get it in my country. €28k - some subsidies is double what I've paid for a substantially bigger car 8 years ago. Not to mention that pretty low range that resets to garbage in winter months.
We’re fairly limited in North America, unfortunately.
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I only know them for tools.
TIL Robert Bosch was an upstanding guy (and, according to workers' representatives, would be "rotating in his grave"). Also there used to exist an organisation in the US called The Noble and Holy Order of the Knights of Labor that he was a member of. Someone revive that Order.
That's Bosch from the popular Amazon TV show, the Bosch you're thinking of is the clown that says "Honk Honk!" when telling a joke.
This is actually good news. Now these folks can work on making trains for each state!
Germany needs more trains, not cars.
Germany needs the trains they have to be reliable