I wouldn't say revolutionary. There are likely revolutionaries in their ranks that long for a return to the USSR and unaliving Nazis is good, but I wouldn't call it revolutionary in the way we want it to be.
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It's revolutionary in the sense that it inflicts a heavy defeat on the imperialists and severely depletes their arsenals. Already the conflict has greatly accelerated the global transition to multipolarity, encouraging Russia but also other countries in the global south that have seen how fickle of a partner the West can be, to reorient, develop alternative trading networks, and reduce their dependence on institutions and financial mechanisms controlled by the imperialist West.
It also destabilizes Europe, one of the two main centers of Western imperialism, politically and economically. This takes pressure off of revolutionary movements in the global south and opens the door to anti-NATO and anti-EU forces in Europe to take advantage of this defeat to agitate for breaking free of these institutions of hegemonic imperialist control which are directly responsible for the severe crisis many European countries now find themselves in.
There's also another aspect to this which is that the breakdown in trade with the West forced Russia to start developing economic ties with the Global South. Developing countries are now directly benefiting from Russian resources and technology. Russia helping Niger build a nuclear reactor is a great example of this dynamic. So, while the West being weakened forced to pour their remaining resources into a futile war, the rest of the world is enjoying an improved economic situation as a result.
Revolutionary? I don’t think so. Progressive? Probably so given that the war in Ukraine is a NATO proxy war.
"is a capitalist state trying to subordinate another capitalist state an anti capitalist state effort?" What
I don't honestly recall that line, is that from when Jyotishman plays devil's advocate?
Anyways I think Joti does a good job of analyzing the geopolitical situation in Europe in terms of Leninism, in particular with reference to Stalin's Foundations of Leninism, and the question of whether or not national liberation is progressive even if not explicitly socialist. The fight against western imperialism is truly the principal contradiction of our time.
I don't honestly recall that line, is that from when Jyotishman plays devil's advocate?
I should've made it more clear. This is not a line from the discussion it's my parody of the title
Edit: but after watching some of this video I guess I don't really understand the whole of this war and where it really came from. I'll have to learn more I guess
I'm not exaggerating when I say this is the first social media platform I've been on where most people are open to changing their minds in the course of a discussion. It makes my head spin.
Anyways, have a look at the recent thread on Ukraine here, in particular the reply by Yogthos: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9212334/7045123
Interesting that you'd be more moderate after watching the video, I guess I'll have to see it too.
FYI, Joti Brar and CPGB-ML are TERFs.
I realize they're problematic but this is one of the most based and theoretically correct anti imperialist takes on Ukraine I've heard. Also some good analysis of English mainstream politics further in. Credit where credit is due. Hoping they will evolve out of the TERFy stuff.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: