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[โ€“] HK65@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Without going pro or con here, I wish they elaborated on this bit:

"return hubs" to house rejected asylum seekers who cannot be returned to their home countries.

Why can't they be returned to their home countries? If it is because of humanitarian reasons, then they are valid asylees, right? But if it's because they are keeping their origins secret to get a better chance at being admitted, then how can you put the "return hub" next to their origin, if you don't know where that is?

[โ€“] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can't be returned because they would not be safe there (which is why they seek asylum in the first place) They cannot get asylum here because Germans are racist. So now we want to put them in limbo somewhere else. Yay I love my country

[โ€“] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Gotta love that special brand of German NIMBYism where people aren't content with not having something they don't like, but go through considerable lengths in order to force an even shittier version of the exact same thing on someone else, ideally out of sight, instead.

[โ€“] einkorn@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There can be multiple reasons:

  • Their home country doesn't want them to return (yes, this case exist and not just because the people might be dissidents).
  • It's not possible to determine their home country (some might not tell)
  • Their home country is unsafe (coming from an unsafe country is not a default acceptance, one has to prove to be directly affected)
[โ€“] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reasons you listed are not enough, and mean the asylem seeker should've been accepted. There are better reasons for example that they have prior convictions and the host country decided to reject them.

For example, someome with pending drug charges against him seeking asylem because his original country will execute him. In that case, the host country does not want to return him, but has full right to reject him.

[โ€“] einkorn@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

The reasons you listed are not enough, and mean the asylem seeker should've been accepted.

That's your opinion. The German immigration law has another, and that one is unfortunately legally binding.

I know the German word for these kind of camps.