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A Princeton nuclear physicist. A mechanical engineer who helped NASA explore manufacturing in space. A US National Institutes of Health neurobiologist. Celebrated mathematicians. And over half a dozen AI experts. The list of research talent leaving the US to work in China is glittering – and growing.

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[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 days ago (22 children)

I mean… it’s not exactly an upgrade.

[–] shani66@ani.social 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Kinda is. America is on its way to being as authoritarian as China, just with a Christian bent, which is so much worse.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 days ago

So much worse than being jailed for talking about democracy? At least in the United States we can all run to a blue state… For now. However, I am curious to see if Trump does anything with his super special banned words.

[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not really.

China doesn't protect freedom of speech. They don't even allow citizens to own their houses.

[–] shani66@ani.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

America doesn't protect freedom of speech already, and we're not even a full year into our fascist takeover

[–] RenLinwood@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anything's possible when you make shit up

[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In terms of getting to do science without harassment, it absolutely is. Now I wouldn't go myself because I'm basically allergic to authoritarianism, but if I was another "I just wanna make rockets" guy it'd be a pretty tempting offer.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ummm… In China, prohibited or heavily restricted areas of research include democracy, human rights, Tibet, Xinjiang, Taiwan, Tiananmen, criticism of the Communist Party, censorship circumvention tools, human reproductive cloning, genetic modification of human embryos for reproduction, stem cell work beyond 14 days of embryo development, unapproved clinical stem cell applications, organ transplantation outside regulated systems, unauthorized cryptography, dual-use or national-security technologies, nuclear technology, unrestricted sharing of genomic or health data, foreign collaboration on sensitive datasets, and archaeological or historical research that challenges official state narratives.

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[–] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are actually stupid if you think scientists will have more freedom in China than the US.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who the heck said anything about freedom?

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