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BREAKING: Israeli authorities have beaten Greta Thunberg, made her kiss Zionist flag (www.thecanary.co)

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[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 minutes ago

Idk why this is treated as though its so inconceivable. Greta is hated by conservatives around the world. Most countries have already condemned Israel. They only care what Trump's regime thinks. Their prisons are notorious centers of physical emotional and sexual torture. This is frankly nothing. If they were going to invent a story about how vile the Israeli prison guards were, this wouldnt be noteworthy in any way. Barely even scratching the surface of the things that happen in those prisons.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 11 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Al Jazeera has a different report. They say she was dragged, not beaten.

I cannot understand the language spoken in that X video, there is no translation, and there are no free publicly available no-login X.com video translation options that I can find.

Additionally I cannot find the cnn turk video from this activist on the internet anywhere but this x link.

I would be very surprised if they actually did what this post describes because everyone would be outraged. She's a sweetheart and so many eyes are watching what they do.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 2 points 14 minutes ago

because everyone would be outraged

People who heard the story and voice of Hind Rajab and weren't outraged would not be outraged by anything. They would at most do what you just did: deny the monsters who shoot kids in the head would do anything to an adult they publicly stated they will treat the way they treat Palestinians hostages.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I ran the X video through a translation app using Turkish to English and got this, which doesn't really say much. Guessing the translation is terrible.

The translation I got from the video clip in the OP x post is:

"They're all politicians. They all tried to treat us like bugs, but they treat everyone like that. They tortured greta very badly in front of our eyes. Get up."

"Evet"[sic]

Guessing this^ was an error in my translation app.

"They persecuted Greta. Greta is still a little child."

"They killed them. They made them kiss the israeli flag. So they did the same thing as the nazis"

Maybe someone who speaks turkish or whatever language is being spoken can help us understand the beating claim, because so far there is no source for that.

[–] gezginorman@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 minutes ago

—All of them, [including the] politicians, they attempted to treat us like insects and they treated everyone the same. They heavily tortured Greta before our very eyes.

—Really?

—Yes. They were very cruel to Greta. Greta is but a little child. They dragged her, made her kiss the Israeli flag. I mean, they did the same things the Nazis did.

I think the torture he's talking about is the dragging and forcing her to kiss the flag but the reporter also seems to think a sort of harsher torture and i think that's why he uses "being cruel" when continued.

Here's the text if anyone wants to run it through other translation software.

—Hepsi, siyasetçisi, hepsi bize böyle böcek muamelesi yapmaya kalktılar ama herkese böyle davranıyorlar. E, Greta'ya çok ağır işkence yaptılar, gözlerimizin önünde.

—Gerçekten mi?

—Evet. Greta'ya zulmettiler. Küçücük çocuk daha Greta. Onu süründürdüler, İsrail bayrağını öptürdüler. Yani Naziler ne yaptıysa aynısını yaptılar.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I'm going to wait for a source I've heard of on that one.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Given everything else Israel as done, do you honestly disbelieve it?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 5 points 15 minutes ago

That's not the point

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 62 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/04/greta-thunberg-israel-gaza-sweden

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 12 points 1 hour ago

I saw that earlier and it's really shitty that they have her in a cell that is giving her rashes (probably from bedbugs) and that they're doing some stupid thing with flags. She did nothing wrong.

Still not the same magnitude of what is described in the X "quote" which has zero sources and no way to verify their translation, for me anyway.

The X quote which has zero source that lines up with it:

“They [Israelis] dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others,”

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Much better. Shitty conditions and some kind of flag parade were definitely included. The beating bit is less clear, and a bigger claim since actually producing deliberate, visible injuries would be a dangerous move on their part.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not if they beat her with a bag of oranges

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 84 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Israel is a fucking terrorist country. IDF is a new SS. They are new Nazi.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 27 minutes ago

"Never again" meant "Never again to us" for the ZioNazis.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Yep, I called that they would torture her, though that was 4 months back on a previous flotilla.

People downvoted that, with no explanation.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46287947/19301735

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 26 minutes ago

Once again the people who were right are mocked and the the people who were wrong just live without considering the future.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

You response to this news is to complain about having been down voted? I can't imagine why

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

You got three downvotes and three upvotes. It's not that big of deal.

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[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 30 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

There have been a lot of libs coming over to lemmy ever since the crackdowns on reddit. Among... Others

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah I've noticed a lot of the engagement to what's said here is similar to r/worldnews a lot of the time. There just needs to be more communities on other instances so we don't have to deal with the enlightened centrism that dominates reddit on here too and the libs can have their own space aswell

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 169 points 5 hours ago (7 children)

She’s still a little kid. They made her suffer.

I think that's needlessly infantilizing her. She's 22. She's not a "little kid". I think she's old enough for her opinions to carry weight, so how is she a "little kid"?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I absolutely think of 22 as a little kid, but I was there when the last Woolly Mammoth died, so it’s somewhat relative.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 hours ago

Idk, to me "little kid" means "not in school yet". It's the "little" that makes the difference, compared to just calling someone a kid or kiddo.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 62 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The youth should have their opinions respected too.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not going to take political opinions from a 3 year old, which is about what I'm thinking when someone says "little kid". Teenagers, like she was when she got famous, can have enough context about the world that their opinions, particularly about things like sustainability, equality, etc, are valid.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, I feel you, I remember aggroing over verbiage like that when I was younger, but as I am now approaching my upper 30s, I find myself referring to basically 25 yos and under as 'kids', its not necesarrily always meant in a demeaning, infantilzing way, can be meant more in the sense of...

... 'has their whole life ahead of them still, it shouldn't be marred or maimed or traumatized this early' /

/ 'they are adults technically yes, but they have far less experience than most other adults' /

/ 'they are too young to be beset by such cruelty and hardship, there should be other adults being better adults such that these awful things do not happen.'

I guess what I am trying to say is it becomes a kind of genuine, broad protective connotation, not trying to be belittling, moreso a lament that the world has failed.

Maybe call it a bungled attempt at intergenerational solidarity.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 hours ago

The thing is, she wasn't just called a kid, but a "little kid".

Sure, I'd call early 20s kids too. Hell, I'm a kid, I'm only turning 30 this year. But I wouldn't call someone a "little kid" once they hit their teenage years. The "little" is what makes the difference in tone. Could've said "she's just a kid" and it would've been a believable attempt at intergenerational solidarity.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 55 points 5 hours ago (6 children)

Swedish gov should cut all ties for this terrorist state torturing their citizens.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 322 points 7 hours ago (31 children)

While I wouldn't wish this on anyone, it's amazing how self-destructive this is. Greta is an internationally famous activist. Flagrantly violating and abusing a person with world renown - along with dozens of other activists - is a radically stupid way to hasten international isolation.

It is well known by most in Israel that the country simply cannot function in isolation. It will lead to collapse. In this, they are giving the flotilla far more power to eventually overthrow the ruling regime.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There are reports from American doctors who worked in Gaza of Palestinian babies being regularly shot in the head.

That was reported during the Biden administration.

Israel is murdering babies, and it hasn't affected their support. Why would this matter?

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 hours ago

Palestinian babies

Plenty of people in The West^R^ don't consider them worthy of empathy, but a white woman of small stature who first became famous as a child might be a different story. We need a mass worldwide cultural shift to identifying all humans as part of the in group or we aren't going to make it through this century.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Remember when Elon Musk did a nazi salute on the world stage for all to see? Remember how we were trying to rationalize what the hell he was thinking? The simplest answer is that nazis at some point just can't help themselves and they end up saluting because they love doing it, they just need to show people who they are.

Same logic I think applies here. Yes it is self-defeating, yes, it is stupid, and yes, it is gratuitous and dangerous. But these people working Ben Gvir's prisons? This is who they are. It's horrifically simple. The people working the Israeli prison system are low level functionaries of apartheid. These are not people who think in terms of strategy etc. If they had the capacity to think like that they wouldn't be there. It's as simple as that.

/Edit: typos

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 hours ago

israel has reached terminal rogue state status: they don’t give a fuck what their image is, they know they’ve got the backing of the imperial core no matter what, so they don’t even bother with excuses anymore

death to israel and to all of those who support its genocide

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

If this is true this is some crazy shit. She just wanted to feed hungry people and fight for climate change. And they do all this shit to her?

What the fuck is wrong with human beings this past decade?

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Pieces of shit being called out for being pieces of shit aren't usually reasonable people to begin with. Give them an inkling of power and authority and this is what happens.

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