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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Breaking: terrorists behave like terrorists

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Idk why this is treated as though its so inconceivable. Greta is hated by conservatives around the world. Most countries have already condemned Israel. They only care what Trump's regime thinks. Their prisons are notorious centers of physical emotional and sexual torture. This is relatively mild treatment in comparison to many of the accounts I've read. It's still awful, but if they were going to invent a story about how vile the Israeli prison guards were, this wouldnt be noteworthy in any way. Barely even scratches the surface of the things that happen in those prisons.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 18 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Al Jazeera has a different report. They say she was dragged, not beaten.

I cannot understand the language spoken in that X video, there is no translation, and there are no free publicly available no-login X.com video translation options that I can find.

Additionally I cannot find the cnn turk video from this activist on the internet anywhere but this x link.

I would be very surprised if they actually did what this post describes because everyone would be outraged. She's a sweetheart and so many eyes are watching what they do.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

because everyone would be outraged

People who heard the story and voice of Hind Rajab and weren't outraged would not be outraged by anything. They would at most do what you just did: deny the monsters who shoot kids in the head would do anything to an adult they publicly stated they will treat the way they treat Palestinians hostages.

Greta is a well known white European lady though, the impact this would have in the West is way higher. Whether this would have any radical effect on anything is still to be seen, though.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I ran the X video through a translation app using Turkish to English and got this, which doesn't really say much. Guessing the translation is terrible.

The translation I got from the video clip in the OP x post is:

"They're all politicians. They all tried to treat us like bugs, but they treat everyone like that. They tortured greta very badly in front of our eyes. Get up."

"Evet"[sic]

Guessing this^ was an error in my translation app.

"They persecuted Greta. Greta is still a little child."

"They killed them. They made them kiss the israeli flag. So they did the same thing as the nazis"

Maybe someone who speaks turkish or whatever language is being spoken can help us understand the beating claim, because so far there is no source for that.

[–] gezginorman@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 hour ago

—All of them, [including the] politicians, they attempted to treat us like insects and they treated everyone the same. They heavily tortured Greta before our very eyes.

—Really?

—Yes. They were very cruel to Greta. Greta is but a little child. They dragged her, made her kiss the Israeli flag. I mean, they did the same things the Nazis did.

I think the torture he's talking about is the dragging and forcing her to kiss the flag but the reporter also seems to think a sort of harsher torture and i think that's why he uses "being cruel" when continued.

Here's the text if anyone wants to run it through other translation software.

—Hepsi, siyasetçisi, hepsi bize böyle böcek muamelesi yapmaya kalktılar ama herkese böyle davranıyorlar. E, Greta'ya çok ağır işkence yaptılar, gözlerimizin önünde.

—Gerçekten mi?

—Evet. Greta'ya zulmettiler. Küçücük çocuk daha Greta. Onu süründürdüler, İsrail bayrağını öptürdüler. Yani Naziler ne yaptıysa aynısını yaptılar.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm going to wait for a source I've heard of on that one.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Given everything else Israel as done, do you honestly disbelieve it?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Isn't it though?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 68 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 16 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I saw that earlier and it's really shitty that they have her in a cell that is giving her rashes (probably from bedbugs) and that they're doing some stupid thing with flags. She did nothing wrong.

Still not the same magnitude of what is described in the X "quote" which has zero sources and no way to verify their translation, for me anyway.

The X quote which has zero source that lines up with it:

“They [Israelis] dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others,”

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 19 minutes ago

The same quote is also in the guardian article.

“They dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others,” the Turkish activist ErsinÇelik, a participant in the Sumud flotilla, told Anadolu news agency

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Much better. Shitty conditions and some kind of flag parade were definitely included. The beating bit is less clear, and a bigger claim since actually producing deliberate, visible injuries would be a dangerous move on their part.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Not if they beat her with a bag of oranges

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago (1 children)

Ok, Bing, no one was asking you for advice.

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Go jump up yourself weirdo

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 96 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Israel is a fucking terrorist country. IDF is a new SS. They are new Nazi.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 hours ago

"Never again" meant "Never again to us" for the ZioNazis.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 184 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

She’s still a little kid. They made her suffer.

I think that's needlessly infantilizing her. She's 22. She's not a "little kid". I think she's old enough for her opinions to carry weight, so how is she a "little kid"?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 26 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I absolutely think of 22 as a little kid, but I was there when the last Woolly Mammoth died, so it’s somewhat relative.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 65 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

The youth should have their opinions respected too.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

Yep, I called that they would torture her, though that was 4 months back on a previous flotilla.

People downvoted that, with no explanation.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46287947/19301735

[–] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago

Are you 12?

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

You response to this news is to complain about having been down voted? I can't imagine why

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

You got three downvotes and three upvotes. It's not that big of deal.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Once again the people who were right are mocked and the the people who were wrong just live without considering the future.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 32 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

There have been a lot of libs coming over to lemmy ever since the crackdowns on reddit. Among... Others

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yeah I've noticed a lot of the engagement to what's said here is similar to r/worldnews a lot of the time. There just needs to be more communities on other instances so we don't have to deal with the enlightened centrism that dominates reddit on here too and the libs can have their own space aswell

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 60 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

Swedish gov should cut all ties for this terrorist state torturing their citizens.

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[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 340 points 9 hours ago (31 children)

While I wouldn't wish this on anyone, it's amazing how self-destructive this is. Greta is an internationally famous activist. Flagrantly violating and abusing a person with world renown - along with dozens of other activists - is a radically stupid way to hasten international isolation.

It is well known by most in Israel that the country simply cannot function in isolation. It will lead to collapse. In this, they are giving the flotilla far more power to eventually overthrow the ruling regime.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There are reports from American doctors who worked in Gaza of Palestinian babies being regularly shot in the head.

That was reported during the Biden administration.

Israel is murdering babies, and it hasn't affected their support. Why would this matter?

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 21 points 5 hours ago

Palestinian babies

Plenty of people in The West^R^ don't consider them worthy of empathy, but a white woman of small stature who first became famous as a child might be a different story. We need a mass worldwide cultural shift to identifying all humans as part of the in group or we aren't going to make it through this century.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 41 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Remember when Elon Musk did a nazi salute on the world stage for all to see? Remember how we were trying to rationalize what the hell he was thinking? The simplest answer is that nazis at some point just can't help themselves and they end up saluting because they love doing it, they just need to show people who they are.

Same logic I think applies here. Yes it is self-defeating, yes, it is stupid, and yes, it is gratuitous and dangerous. But these people working Ben Gvir's prisons? This is who they are. It's horrifically simple. The people working the Israeli prison system are low level functionaries of apartheid. These are not people who think in terms of strategy etc. If they had the capacity to think like that they wouldn't be there. It's as simple as that.

/Edit: typos

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