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What is a Wrecker according to Hexbear mods? (midwest.social)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago) by deaf_fish@midwest.social to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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cross-posted from: https://midwest.social/post/36729179

I got banded from ~~Hexbear~~ (I am dumb) a Hexbear community. Not that I am super sad about it. More confused...

This is the post that did me in: https://midwest.social/post/36684138/20435030

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Nothing will change if you don't believe it can. If all this does is delay fascism for a day. That's one less day of people dying and suffering for really stupid and avoidable reasons. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me bummed out and not vote? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Yes, I agree. This is simply a stop gap measure. I'm not saying to stop doing all the other stuff like protesting and organizing. Voting is just one afternoon. For some people it's really easy to do, it's way easier than other stuff that you're probably already doing. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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I thought roe v wade was gone because Obama did kick Mitch McConnell in the nutz for not doing his job and appointing his supreme Court judge. What did Biden do to row v wade? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Cuz I don't need to engage with your material. This is sooooooo simple. Just vote for the guy who is less fascist. Are you confused about whether fascism is bad? Guess what? It's bad! Lots of innocent people dying bad. Are you confused about which presidential candidate is the least fascist? That would be Biden. You should vote for him. Everyone should vote for him in this next election. This is your 100th chance to not come off as a fascist supporter. You better take it! by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Define failed practice? What do you think would have happened if Biden had lost the last election to Trump? Four years of Trump almost tore this country to pieces. I'm sorry fighting is hard. I'm not asking you to be pro-democrat. I'm just asking you not to doomer everyone into not voting at all. Guess what? Fascists vote and they organize and they don't get doomer about this stuff. If you're not going to help then get out of the way. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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First of all, you're confusing me with somebody who likes the Democrats. I don't. I don't like either party. Second of all, why the hell are you acting like there's a third choice between a Democrat and Republican? When was the last time an independent candidate came even close to winning? We currently only have two choices for president. I beg of you or anyone else that is reading this. Please vote for the less fascist one. Again, I don't like this. But acting like there's absolutely no difference between Biden and Trump is the the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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I know! So simple right? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

mod Banned deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: west purginia, mountain mama (lib :farquaad-point:)

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If you have the numbers to start a violent revolution. You have the numbers to do reform. Unless you plan on dying a glorious death with no change in outcome. I'm not saying electoralism is the only answer. Keep protesting. Keep organizing. Keep spreading information. Do you know what would give you more time to build that revolutionary army? If Biden was president for four more years. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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I don't need to prove that Biden opposes fascism. I just have to prove the other candidate would be more fascist. We only have two choices. This should be really simple. Pick the one that's less fascist. Why is this so hard for you? Are you unsure which president would cause a less fascist outcome between Biden and Trump? This is really simple, it's Biden, vote Biden! Voting is one afternoon. Waiting in a line. Filling out a ballot. I know it sucks. Your feelings are valid. Vote Biden because fascism is bad. Do you know who's not going to vote Biden. All the fascists. They're going to be voting for whoever the Republican candidate is. Do you know who they really want? They want Hitler2 for president. Do you know what they're not doing? Complaining about that and doomering over it. This is incredibly simple. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Biden is better than a fascist. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me to give up start licking that boot? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Biden is better than a fascist. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me to give up start licking that boot? by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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You just want to shoot people. You want people to die due to fascism. So that you can LARP as a revolutionary soldier. Listen if a violent revolution was going to be successful. Liberal democracy would have turned the USA into socialism by now. If you're going to start a revolution, you have to make sure you have more than 50% of the population on your side, at a minimum. The more population on your side the less death will occur. If more than 50% of the population agrees with you, democracy will work just fine. No need to murder bone. Unless you want to. In which case none of this conversation makes any difference. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Yes, do all of that! And vote! Voting is pretty easy compared to the other things on that list. Do what you can. Do all of them if you can. I don't like the Democrats. I don't like saying that we should support the Democrats. But the Democrats are right now the least fascist of the two parties that we have to pick between. I am acting smug, because it appears to me this group has some whiny babies who can't vote. Seriously, how can you fight fascists in the street and then just not vote? I think voting would be really easy compared to fighting fascists. Convincing cucked liberals to vote for Biden is a nice baby step for them. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

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Okay if you believe all that then shut up. Die quietly and let everyone else die fighting. All you're doing is spread doomer bullshit that isn't helping anyone. If you want to stop being miserable. Join the fight! by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: Wrecker.

mod Banned deaf_fish @lemm.ee from the community Labour

reason: Wrecker.

expires: 2 years ago

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Wow, this whole post is psy op. Vote Biden people! The only other option will be a fascist or fascist enabler. I don't like it anymore than you do. by deaf_fish @lemm.ee

reason: No.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Brah, these are some bored teenagers roleplaying as communists online. Case in point: no one up comes with random BS like "wrecker" IRL.

The ones who are not teenagers are demagogues who are shitposting.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. Actual activists are organizing and taking action. Online shitposters are slacktivists at best.

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[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 9 points 1 day ago

I can't upvote this enough.

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Nothing will change if you don't believe it can. If all this does is delay fascism for a day. That's one less day of people dying and suffering for really stupid and avoidable reasons. Seriously, what's the point of your comment? Are you trying to get me bummed out and not vote? by deaf_fish @negativenull@lemm.ee

Individual votes have no value. It was Biden and Kamala's fault for not campaigning on good policies. Hexbear's (or leftist) stance on whether or not to vote for him doesn't change this.

Also, Biden is directly responsible for deaths of hundreds of thousands of people by aiding Israel, and Democrats are responsible for many more domestic deaths by the way of social murder especially considering they had majority control for some time. That Trump may kill more doesn't change this fact.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So there is some missing context. The posters I was replying to had the position that voting was completely worthless. So much so, that even discussing it was a waist of time.

Yeah, as a leftist, I don't defend Biden. In fact I think, for the most part, Democrats are controlled opposition, and given time will become more fascist thanks to capital.

My argument isn't that Democrats will make things better. It is they will make things worse at a slower pace compared to republicans. Giving more time to organize.

Voting is like bringing a knife to a battle with assault rifles. Yeah, it probably isn't going to be useful, but if it is all you can carry, it is better than nothing. And until they figure out how to make skin cut resistant, there is always a possibility of doing some damage.

That being said, in a very morbid way, the damage that the second Trump term is doing is very public and the admiration is doing a bad job covering it up. An the leftist organization that has been happening so far, has been good, but not enough. So, it might turn out that the accelerationist position has the least loss of life. I think the acceleration bet is still too rich for my blood. To much of a chance for things to go very badly.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So there is some missing context. The posters I was replying to had the position that voting was completely worthless. So much so, that even discussing it was a waist of time.

It really is in the US. If you don't live in a select pool of like 5 states, your vote doesn't mean shit. This, of course, pertains to the presidential election, but that's what your posts are all about. Parts of Hexbear were hyped about Mamdani. The biggest difference is that the office he's running doesn't count their votes through something as thoroughly undemocratic-by-design as the electoral college. And Hexbear in general is far more receptive of other elections outside the US. Most people on Hexbear were initially hyped about Corbyn's new party or how the French left won the most seats in the 2024 French legislative elections. So it's not even particularly true that Hexbear is against electoralism as you're characterizing as.

My argument isn't that Democrats will make things better. It is they will make things worse at a slower pace compared to republicans. Giving more time to organize.

Various people on Hexbear have also made this same argument. In other words, Democrats are not the lesser evil, but the weaker opponent that's easier to topple should they be in power. But it falls apart since most US progressives do not recognize the Democrats as the enemy, so people do not organize as readily under the Democrats as you yourself have admitted. This is the tragedy of the US left: they recognize the Republicans as the enemy, but they do not recognize the Democrats as the enemy. Consequently, they will always be blindsided by the machinations of the Democrats.

When Trump was in power, people rightfully saw his administration and the US government in general as the enemy, saw the carceral system for what it was, and cheered the masses of people taking to the streets and burning a police precinct to the ground. Even white people were beginning to warm up to BLM.

But then Biden came to power and people let their guard down. When their guard was down, the police "reform" was enacted where police departments got record funding and cop cities began popping up to make sure a George Floyd uprising will never happen again. And now that Trump is back, people have their guard up again.

Why do you think that ICE monitoring app only came about when Trump is president? ICE existed under Biden and there has been no technological breakthrough that would've made an ICE monitoring app impossible in 2020. It's because Trump is president which lit a fire on many people's asses, including an otherwise apolitical app developer who told himself, "I can't just stand on the sidelines and watch ICE brutalize my friends and neighbors. I have to do something." Had he been more politically conscious, he would've know that ICE was already brutalizing his friends and neighbors under Biden and would've been part of a political organization which would've steered his app development to not make terrible design choices like making it only be available on iPhones because he has a false idea of Android development and doesn't understand basic FOSS concepts in general.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for the reply. I am being rightfully nudged by the mods to not rehash the arguments. I will reply to your DMs.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will reply to your DMs.

Please don't. No offense, but I greatly dislike communicating through DMs.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Fair, please ignore my DM then. Have a good one!

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This thread is not the place to rehash electoralism.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

You are right. @FuckyWucky if you want to continue to talk about it, feel free to DM me.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That would be Biden. You should vote for him. Everyone should vote for him in this next election.

Okay, I followed your advice and I voted for biden so hard last election, though I thought it was kind of weird how I needed to write him in.

spoiler(^BTW this very comment is a good example of wrecker behavior, see how annoying it is? you're welcome)

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's more flippancy instead of wrecker, so most of !flippanarchy. It doesn't really split people or create kinda-believable arguments that are actually about minutiae.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

yeah you're right, I'm not actually a good wrecker lol

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Those discussions were before the the switch to Harris. Although the same logic still applies.

The mods of this place are rightly nudging me not to rehash political discussions. If you want to continue this conversion, feel free to DM me.

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[–] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wrecker means "guy I don't like" and the mods should keep up the bans!!

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[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hexbear follows ml thought which includes the basic ideal that electoralism is almost practically useless.

Many people would argue with your arguments here that all you did was sell the Palestinians down a river instead of punishing the Democrats. They would argue that you voted for comfort over principle. And some people like myself would argue that delaying the inevitable causes more damage. For instance, if Biden had lost and Trump had just had a second term, the damage might have actually been more limited because they didn't have four years to plan.

You're being called a wrecker because you fundamentally misunderstand the way that Marxist-Leninists view electoralism.

Hexbear tries to be very proactive about agitation propaganda from liberals, since the rest of the internet is so filled with it, including the lemmy space.

There are plenty of people that share your view, you're just not gonna find them on Hexbear, nor will you find any person willing to engage with the purchase of your arguments, as they've been pretty thoroughly debunked and thrashed by most communist philosophers. Lenin has talked extensively about how useful electoralism is, especially in his book, What Is To Be Done.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago

Thanks for this thoughtful reply. I have some questions, but I have been rightfully nudged by the mods to avoid rehashing arguments, so I will reply to you in DMs.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Just a euphemism for “wrong thinker”

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i wouldn't call you a wrecker i'd call you a fucking genocide apologist

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i’d call you a fucking genocide apologist

Genocide is bad, that has always been my stance. I think Israel is bad for doing a genocide against the Palestinians. How am I a genocide apologist?

I believe I said as much in the post I got banned for, did I not?

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Save your breath. Hexbears are not interested in nuanced political discussion. Either you swallow and vomit their very specific brand of elitist tankie leftism, or you get brigaded and banned. There is no allyship, only conformity.

It's why other instance admins often receive petitions, particularly by newer Lemmings, to defederate or otherwise block hexbear instances.

Do yourself a favor and block their domain and any hexbear user that you find even remotely engaging in bad faith discussion. I mean ffs, they have communities specifically for identifying and harassing other Lemmy users in real time. They are the Kiwi Farms of the Fediverse, they know it, and they don't care, because "lol communism go brrr."

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

A convenient term that can be applied to anyone they don't like

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