Anyone who's still learning the UK (and other US-aligned European nations save maybe France) can be bullied is clearly not paying attention and has no business being in politics.
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2025
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The United Kingdom is an utter joke.
Don't get me wrong. I actually like this country. This is the nation that produced George Orwell, Harry Potter, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, JRR Tolkien...
But they are completely panicked about Chinese interference.
Meanwhile, several of their newspapers are owned by Rupert Murdoch.
John Major, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, has publically said that Rupert Murdoch pressured him to change Britain's foreign policy :
https://www.channel4.com/news/major-denies-sun-editor-abused-him-after-black-wednesday
A foreigner tells the Prime Minister to change Foreign Policy or he will try to remove him from office. How is that not electoral interference ?
Gordon Brown, another Prime Minister, had his family medical files stolen by thugs working for Rupert Murdoch:
https://www.politico.com/story/2011/07/murdoch-paper-left-pm-in-tears-058767
A UK Prime Minister that said he was bullied by a foreigner.
A UK Prime Minister that said he was blackmailed by a foreigner.
In fact, it doesn't stop here. Rupert Murdoch played a key role in Brexit. Remember this headline, a few days before the referendum?
The Queen actually never said this. Murdoch told his editor to publish it.
Nigel Farage publically said: "Brexit wouldn't have happen without Murdoch"
This is pure foreign interference.
Let's imagine if Rupert Murdoch was Chinese or Arab. Imagine he was named Li Wu or Mohamed Islam. He buys newspapers and spreads disinformation. He threatens Prime Ministers. Brits would be screaming about the need to stop him.
Do you see protests? Headlines? Worried MPs? They don't care.
Why ? Because Murdoch is a white anglo. In the british subconscious, white anglos are "family".
I'm a foreigner, but I know Britain well. One of the benefit is that I see things Britons can not see.
I don't know which media you have been consuming in the recent 20 or so years, but it is simply not true that "they don't care" about Farage's politics and Murdoch and all the others. There are many critics, and it is right to keep this up.
The point is that this doesn't make China's interference and transnational repression better. I don't understand why you (and many others here) are getting frequently upset when they read critical reports on China. It must be said that - no matter what other issues there may be- China poses a massive threat to other countries. And I definitely don't mean 'only' Western countries. This spy case is a sad example for Beijing's bullying.
There is a big difference between criticizing and doing something about it.
Idon't like China or Russia. Their foreign influence attempts are disturbing.
But Rupert Murdoch has done an extraordinary amount of damage and somehow, it's consider perfectly normal. US Billionaires are allowed to wire money to UK Think Tanks and it's somehow considered perfectly normal.
I'm pointing out the irony.
The anglosphere businessmen that UK Elites consider "family" are not inherently better than Russians or Chinese.
What about whataburger
We're talking about China here and China IS a threat to most countries in the world.
Yes, you talk about other threats but you seem to be another one of those "if the other guys are a threat, then my good friend China cannot be one" type of people. Please learn that is possible that two are wrong, not just one, and please learnt hst idolizing anything or anyone is always a bad thing.
Man there are a lot of China apologists here
We're talking about China here and China IS a threat to most countries in the world.
What? China is a threat to the West and its immediate neighbors, noy "most countries in the world."
Yes, you talk about other threats but you seem to be another one of those "if the other guys are a threat, then my good friend China cannot be one" type of people.
From their reply to the other person, posted two hours before your reply to them, that's not the case.
This statement of a retired diplomat is what the headline is about:
“In broad fashion, this [collapse] says to the Chinese, ‘yes, we can bully the British, they will crumble if we play hard ball in whatever the negotiation is’ — that’s the worrying thing to me”
In very broad fashion! In narrow fashion it's about one prosecutor appearing to have been bribed, I guess.
Keir Starmer the type of guy to get held upside down by his ankles and shaken until his lunch money falls out.