this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
593 points (87.3% liked)

Progressive Politics

3360 readers
998 users here now

Welcome to Progressive Politics! A place for news updates and political discussion from a left perspective. Conservatives and centrists are welcome just try and keep it civil :)

(Sidebar still a work in progress post recommendations if you have them such as reading lists)

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Please, before reporting this post for racism, familiarize yourself with the history of the phrase “Uncle Tom.” The phrase has been used by the Black community against itself, recently in Spike Lee’s Bamboozled.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

"black people say it why can't I"

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

and how am I supposed to know who is black or not?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 4 hours ago

Guess you should just allow the n-word too then because people might be black.

[–] thelonious_consoomer@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I can't believe this is the response. I am seriously at a loss for words.

For the record, I did not report this post for racism. I do believe the rhetoric absolutely enables white hegemony and should not be seen as subversive or somehow post racial.

I am done with this thread. I literally just came to get screenshots for archival purposes. Cheers everyone ✌️

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

“ProgressivePolitics” lol 😂

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Is F.D. Signifier not a progressive?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

For the people who don't understand the post:

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 hour ago

Holy shit, something is broken in people's brains. He said "Israeli families and the people of Gaza" he's giving a message about peace and you're nitpicking it because you want to find a reason to hate people.

If anything he's excluding people in Israel because he didn't say "people of Israel" and only expressing sympathy for the families of the victims of Hamas. Also if he were to say "Palestinian people" that would be implying that this ceasefire plan is also dealing with problems in the West Bank, which it is not.

Obama is correct, this is a ceasefire for the families of the victims of Hamas and for the people of Gaza, but not for all Israelis or all Palestinians. There's still a lot more work to do. But go ahead and write your petty and hateful comments and pretend you're helping Palestinians when you're not helping anyone.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Denying Palestinians a communal identity has always been a key approach to dehumanization within Western discourse.

The Western world has historically tied itself into knots justifying horrific atrocities like the Atlantic slave trade while trying to present itself as a champion of personal freedoms.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 hours ago

Indeed. And also he is putting a few people who have a relative guarding the concentration camp on the same level of suffering as the people in the concentration camp undergoing a Holocaust. This is not a both sides moment.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

People in Gaza might refer to themselves as "people of Gaza." And there's aid groups with the name. And plenty of other instances where it's used to humanize them (seems so to me at least). I've already done more work looking for this theory to line up than the ones proposing the theory.

Nobody spends their free time looking shit up anymore do they? Throw me a bone here. Give me a white paper study on just how, precisely, Obama is dehumanizing gazans through his speech patterns. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying I'd like to be right. But being right takes effort. Evidence.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago

For me it is the equivocation more than anything else. And you just have to look at how the west treats single, child-free adults to see how they prioritize families as morally superior. There is something charged about the word family in that context.

I've already done more work looking for this theory to line up than the ones proposing the theory.

Prove it. Show your work.

load more comments
view more: next ›