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Hey look someone with integrity, morals, principles and balls. Sadly all four of those seem to be highly endangered traits.
I’m deeply proud of Python for standing by its community and making the right decision.
Discrimination in the name of anti-discrimination
How is it legal to basically say "We'll give you some money if you promise to keep the blacks out of your organisation"
Because conservatives convinced people that DEI was literally about filling a quotas at the cost of competency, because "controlling the narrative".
You frame it as "don't discriminate based on skin color, as in don't hire a black person because they're black" while not saying any more of the quiet part out loud.
In a perfect world where nobody doing the hiring was ever even a little subconsciously racist, that would be perfectly reasonable, yeah.
Though that said we end up with a lot of nuance in the real world. Let's say there's a traditionally marginalised, opposed racial group. Let's say times have changed somewhat and people suddenly accept them.
Well, the generational and cultural weight is still going to have a lasting effect even if times have changed, and it may be more difficult for people from that group to afford a good education, good job, good home, etc.
The point being that even if we all stopped being racist today and hired purely based on how good an employee someone will be, we're likely still unknowingly skewing our decisions based on past social racial issues.
I'm probably not putting it very well but hopefully you get the idea! It's probably pretty common knowledge anyway I guess haha, seems pretty obvious to me and I don't even think about this stuff much :-)
Anyway, point is, we do still need to work as a society on ensuring diversity and fairness even when we're not racist at all - I think the saying might be "Equity over Equality", or such?
Obviously the USA Government are fascists, so they're more interested in wiping out groups they don't like, but they're just another in a long line of evil governments that will eventually fall, no point thinking too deeply about why they're being evil. They'll eventually die off as all fascist regimes do. Hopefully we won't have to fight a World War against them this time.
For context, I am an old white man engineer. I've worked in large and small companies over my career. Almost without fail, even with DEI policies in place, a non-white person or woman still had to be 10x more qualified than their white male counterparts to be hired. Once in the organization, they were generally put into some dead end role while far less qualified white men were advanced to higher positions. When I worked in the bible belt southeastern USA, you had the added factor of protestant christians ruling the roost too.
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Fucking hell, good for the PSF for maintaining their values. I'll make a donation when I get paid. I'm sure they would appreciate it if any one else can spare a dollar or two.
https://psfmember.org/civicrm/contribute/transact/?reset=1&id=2
Edit: Added donation link
This should be the top comment. Now, excuse me. I've got a donation to go make.
ETA: Done. I felt dirty using Paypal, but I was being lazy, right up until Paypal barfed up some error saying "This credit card can't be used something something blah blah blah. Let's try a different one." In response to which I suddenly found the energy to go find the checkbook and an envelope.
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To make matters worse, the terms included a provision that if the PSF was found to have voilated that anti-DEI diktat, the NSF reserved the right to claw back any previously disbursed funds, Crary explained.
Likely why it was not accepted
Yeah, even if they weren't willing to take a principled stance, that's really dangerous. Especially with how temperamental these fascists are.
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"... do not ,and will not ... operate any programs that advance or promote DEI [diversity, equity, and inclusion], or discriminatory equity ideology..."
Aren't these contradictory? 🤔
They're really pulling the childish 'We're just going to make up a fake acronym using DEI' card in an official government communication?
This is a clown show
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Go team snake 🐍
Fuck yes, Python.
I bet if they solicit crowd funding to replace this grant they’d easily surpass its dollar value.
~~Is there an existing way to donate to the Python Foundation?~~
Never mind, answered my own question: https://www.python.org/psf/donations/
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Political commissars will be present at all meetings.
If they accepted it, saying "Diversity of libraries" could have get them into hot waters.
Now this is concerning. FOSS is diverse by default, because of the international nature. They noted that FOSS software can be a viable alternative to the easily controllable IT giants, which is why they want to nip in the bud this way?