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I knew a girl who worked in the administrative side of that company, they were purchased by blackwater. then blackwater renamed themselves a few times ending on reusing Constellis. But it's just the name now.
What's your point? He said the company went through several iterations but whether it was Blackwater or Constellis he never worked for them.
He worked for Constellis...
As I said he never worked for Blackwater/Constellis, as seen in the clip........
Then who did he work for?
Constellis before they were acquired by Blackwater.
Didn't Blackwater acquire Constellis in 2014, before Planter was working for them?
That may be the case. I am just repeating what the article indicated. I don't know about the actual timeline.
Well, in that case the article is lying; be worked for Constellis after it merged with Blackwater.
Try opening a search engine and check if evidence of the contrary exists before very confidently repeating his lies.
Dude spent 2 decades working for the interest of corporate and imperialist powers and then says in 2018 that "it started to become a corporate money grab".
Every time he talks I hate him more. It's like he thinks that people criticizing him are as stupid as he is.
I just don't buy the tattoo angle he's selling. Either he's a cryptofascist or a drunken idiot, either case not fit for office.
Agreed. It doesn't have to be this big conversation about "letting people change". That's fine for a personal friend I'm trying to help grow. We're talking about a politician that will influence the lives of thousands to millions of people. Yeah. I'll have a higher standard and much more doubt. It's that simple.
You're presenting a false dichotomy. There's the distinct possibility he WAS a drunken idiot and no longer is.
I've got no skin in the game here, but to compare those options:
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He quits working in the lucrative military industrial complex to become a fascist sleeper agent (because if he didn't know in advance his reddit history wouldn't make any sense). So he spends the better part of a decade making functionally anonamous reddit posts on lefty and socialist subs while oyster farming (presumably) to build credibility as a lefty... In Maine... but curiously he does so while not building any sort of real political capital or credibility. After 7 years the Democrats are weak, he activates with bonafides to flank the party from the left and emerge as a working class fighter. He decides not to get rid of the tattoo that could expose him to the public as a fascist (perhaps because he needs to secretly maintain his fascist bonafides).
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He's authentic, but as a young guy in the service, he gets shit faced and makes a terrible decision in a tattoo shop. Accepting this theory does require one to believe that Platner had not committed the first 10 pages of the ADL hate symbol database to memory.
Occams razor makes a pretty clear case here.
Still, I would be concerned about getting Fetterman'd if I were a Maine voter. Platner comes with some baggage and requires a good bit of faith. I also don't think there are any clearly, better options for voters in Maine.
There's no evidence of either.
His own claim is that he got the tattoo while drunk, which is idiotic. I decline to pretend with you that the tattoo is not its own evidence of cryptofascism.
I've heard plenty of drunken stories of people getting a tattoo while intoxicated.
Even buzzfeed has an article on all the dumb tattoos people got when they were drunk.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sydrobinson1/drunk-tattoos-thatll-make-you-smile-and-cringe
i dont think 'lots of other people are drunken idiots too' is quite the argument you were looking for
That's right because it isn't
I've been drunk as fuck for most weekends of my life. Never once did I find myself getting a Nazi tattoo to celebrate my service killing brown people in Iraq. Idk. Maybe have a higher standard for a representative than you would some random reddit comment?
Like, this isn't a personal friend you're trying to help explain the personal struggles of to another friend. This is a representative that will influence the lives of thousands to potentially millions of people. Maybe have a higher standard for them to reach than you would a drunk idiot in a bar.
That's why he's a "pass" for me. I don't live in Maine. I don't have any interest in helping or promoting him. Maybe if I was in Maine I'd have a bit more patience.
But I am not gonna waste my time defending or promoting a dude with a Nazi tattoo just because he said "fight the oligarchs" like it's a copy pasta from Sanders to get voters.
He said he had no idea it was Nazi symbolism. No one in his family or friends made him aware of it either. I was also unaware of it.
You being stupid is ok with me. You're not running as a politician.
Edit: I'm sorry. Maybe the average person is just really stupid. But it's literally the second symbol listed on the Nazi Symbolism Wikipedia. First is the Swastika. Is the average person really that ignorant of history?
Do you want to take that back or do you want me to make a comment about your ADHD?
Like, you're telling me if you saw a guy with that tattoo in the gym the first thing that comes to mind is not "damn, that looks like some Nazi shit"?
Like, I'm not saying people need to know the exact symbol and name. But, come on, you watch one WW2 documentary and you should be able to put that together. That shit was all over.
Like, did you forget to take your ritalin today? C'mon yo!
I'm gonna guess you're just projecting or something. Either that; or you're hallucinating. Good luck mate.
Me hallucinating? I'm not the one on meds. Have a nice day.
You're hallucinating that I'm on different medications. It's why I'm assuming you're projecting.
Except the fucking totenkopf tattooed on his chest
Personal growth. You never went through it?
I don't judge my policians with the same criteria that I would a personal friend. I think this is a problem with modern social media and media in general. It's given people the delusion that we should consider political figures by the same means we do our friends.
If I want to help a personal friend overcome their racism and bigotry. I will make that decision because I have a personal connection to them that I can influence.
We're talking about a representative though. Why would I give benefit of the doubt to someone ill literally never sit down with?