Only MAGAt morons are dumbfounded over this. I mean, they were already dumb... hence why they voted for someone who SAID he didn't care about them and only cared about their vote... but now, they are dumbfounded over learning he doesn't fucking care for anyone but himself.
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It really sucks that normal people have to suffer as well, but I will be watching with great joy at my neighbors and family complaining about this when we all know who they voted for. I'm lucky I'm insulated from this, but I can't say the same for my cousin who just had a second kid, is reliant on this program, and is passively a maga idiot. I'll cook for and feed her kids, but her and her Hispanic maga baby daddy can suck eggs.
Americans dumbfounded, still vote conservative to own the libs
I'll believe Americans are dumbfounded until I see a change, otherwise it's just opinion.
Someone dumbfounded by the actions of the current administration is almost by definition someone who struggles with coherent and consistent thought.
I myself am dumbfounded, because the ballot box has failed and although I know how to use the ammo, I don’t want to die alone in a shootout with gravy seals
I don't believe anyone is actually dumbfounded by the cruelty. We've all heard the rhetoric, we all watched the speeches, the cruelty was there plain to see. Of course, some people didn't think it would ever come for them, that they weren't on the s*** list, but there was never any question about the cruelty itself.
Americans who voted for people to be killed dumbfounded as regime moves to kill more people.
Honestly though, anyone surprised by this is a fucking idiot. This was in the plan that they wrote and made publicly available years ago. You are not allowed to be surprised by this.
This was in the plan
It's also generally where our government operates. Under Clinton we watched the social safety net get cut. Under Dubya it was cut further. When the poors tried to revolt Obama stood by and let the NYPD brutalize them and let the banks con and rob them. Biden and Trump I also got in on the fun of making life harder for the poors, by standing by and doing nothing as the cost of living has doubled and tripled while wages stayed stagnant. (And for added fun, Biden and Trump have done nothing while homelessness is increasingly criminalized.)
It's who we are at a cultural level. We ARE a cruel people.
They thought that he would only hurt the people that they don't like. They have a hardon for cruelty. That is the defining characteristic of MAGA.
No we are not. I mean some of us are probably. They get dumbfounded by their car slowing down going up a hill.
It's easy to forget that Trump won the popular vote, and that this is his second term.
America has a cruel president because Americans are cruel. That's what they want.
He didn't win the popular vote the first time. He lost by 3 million votes, but a Democrat has to win by a lot more than that because of the handicap set up by Republicans to favour Republicans. He lost by 8 million to Biden and that was enough for a Democrat to be appointed by the "Electoral College".
George W. Bush also lost the popular vote in 2000, but was appointed.
I don't know if Trump actually won the popular vote in 2024. At this point it doesn't really matter. The rich and powerful are just going to appoint who they want, they don't give a fuck what the people vote for. The popular vote is an opinion at best, and it's not considered. Americans don't elect presidents, the ruling elite does.
I don’t know if Trump actually won the popular vote in 2024.
Trump - 77,302,580
Harris - 75,017,613
Yes, he did. "He didn't win the popular vote" was a cold comfort I told myself often the first time, but this time there was no such thing. I had to accept that America is just made up of a larger than average percentage of horrible people.
Thanks. Crazy that "only" 2 million over means a Republican can win, but "only" 3 million over means a Democrat doesn't have enough to win.
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We know totalitarian aren't above starving their own people. History has many examples.
Founded on dumb, Americans get snap benefits cut. Still vote against interests.
People that are dumbfounded just haven’t been paying attention.
it's so incredibly frustrating reading americans thoughts on this stuff. like you just stroll over to virtually any reddit thread regarding anything the administration is doing and it's always "this must be illegal" or "it's happening" and what have you. Like they still don't get it. "I can't believe they're doing what they said they were going to do, I hope someone stops them" - proceeds to keep doom scrolling.
And then you have the democrats that insist the system isn't broken, insist that if they continue to play by the rules than the other side will also eventually decide that the rules should be followed...no, that's not how this work. A cheater doesn't suddenly have a come to jesus moment and thinks "you know...I really shouldn't cheat anymore."
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Anyone shocked by this: dm me to buy a bridge.
People vote for a convicted rapist and then are surprised when their country gets fucked.
They’re just surprised that the hatred they voted for is affecting them too
There does seem to be a sentiment of wanting food stamps gone, because that's a program abused by non whites and immigrants, but SNAP must remain because they depend on it. Then being shocked it's the same thing and it's all gone now. Same with Obamacare and ACA.
My ex-wife turned our baby sitter onto the ACA and she was ecstatic! "At least it isn't that damned Obamacare!" Wife: "It's the same thing." Wish I had been there to see her face.
I think she meant Romney Care.
This was in Florida, unless I missed the joke?
Romney care = Obama care for the uninitiated.
It was designed by the Heritage Foundation, but because a Democratic President passed it they hate their own plan. Just shows how broken conservatives are.
These respondents were self-selected Guardian readers. Doubt many voted for Trump.
Yeah that's what kept coming to mind: All these people are The Guardian readers so they probably already dislike Trump and likely blame him for this loss of benefits.
I would have liked to see The Guardian interview actual Trump voters to see what they feel about things.
Or for fox to interview trump voters in low income brackets.
I heard a take today that it's a purposeful provocation, in an attempt to elicit the ability to use martial law, I assume to keep himself in power. He needs the people to revolt, with violence. I dunno what I think about it.
I think escalation and violence from one side or another is happening regardless.
On one hand, if this is the game he will play he can make things worse and worse and just say "but if you react, I get what I want". Then he ruins programs and gets what he wants. On the other hand he has made things worse and more violent by lying and claiming that there is already a violent response... and he gets what he wants.
Win win for fascism either way.
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We're not dumbfounded by this.
Over the last 40 years our Federal Government has always been very intentionally and deliberately cruel to the poor. Democrats have done it. Republicans have done it. In our culture poverty is viewed as a personal moral failing, so it's a-okay if you're thrust out into the street to starve.
(Not saying I agree with it. It's just silly to pretend that Americans really give a shit about poverty.)
Totally agree with what you are saying. I would like to add that I was part of our cities homeless task force. The progressive people wanted to help them and the conservatives wanted to drive them away. Don't generalize too much about Americans because there are a lot of us that want to help.
there are a lot of us that want to help.
I get that. I mean on a macro level.
Gavin Newsom, presumably one of the front runners for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, is enthusiastically criminalizing homelessness in California right now. People are lionizing him and ignoring it for his dank memes.
I don't think a lot of people think that homeless people should be jailed or imprisoned, but when you're content to vote for politicians helping to make that happen as a collective, what you believe as an individual doesn't matter much.
Gavin is a Neolib doing the work of Neocons. The face of corporatism wrapped up in populism.
Not sure why politics get so fucked once they hit the federal level as I have also lobbied reps in DC. I really think it is just the money talking and the only solution is to take it away and design a government that resists corruption instead of embracing it.
If they're truly dumbfounded by all this, then they're so braindead that they very likely voted for it. No sympathy at all.
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