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Lawmakers from the incoming chancellor’s CDU party signal an end to the “firewall” that saw mainstream politicians refuse to work with extreme groups for decades.

The party that won Germany’s election is radically softening its approach to working with the far right as the reality of the country’s transformed political landscape starts to bite.

While the center-right Christian Democrats (CDU) — the party of Helmut Kohl and Angela Merkel — has for decades steadfastly refused to cooperate or do deals with politicians on the extremes, that “firewall” now appears to be crumbling as the German parliament works out how to organize itself in the wake of the country’s Feb. 23 snap election.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Fucking embarrassing. And dangerous as all fuck.

Are you guys, like, not seeing what’s going on over on our side of the pond? Are you feeling nostalgic for some overenthusiastic hiking through foreign countries? Are you feeling the need for scapegoating and protectionism? Holy fucking christ.

Look at how we are fucking up, and then don’t do that. Please. For the love of god.

[–] fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

politico.eu is from springer which is our fox news.

a small group in the conservative party is talking about normalizing the far-right. but the media and the public are calling them out on it. even from within their party.

last time cdu tried to "work together" with afd, there were millions on the streets within a few days.

edit: over 75% voted against a fashist party with a voter turnout of 83%

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh thats interesting, I always thought that site was fairly neutral whoops.

Ooooh wait - I think I remember: they were originally part of the Gawker conglomerate (with the us-focused politico.com, jezebel, jalopnik, and some others), and Peter Thiel snarfed them up / did a hatched job on their staff, right?

Fucking Thiel, holy christ. He’s really gunning for Murdoch’s spot on the “shittiest humans alive” list, isn’t he?

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

A turn out of 83%?! Impressive.

[–] 30p87@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago

What are we to do? We are on the streets, but nothing changes, as Russia and the US fearmonger via modern Volksempfängers like TikTok and sponsor private media to misinform.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

On the contrary, Merz saw what happened in the US and he said "I want that too" because much like Musk and Trump and Farage and others of that type he is a pathetic incompetent right-winger with a huge ego.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mostly blame this on media manipulation. There is a constant barrage of fearmongering about recession and inflation and immigrants and terrorism even by supposedly left media outlets. Fact is, people arent doing bad in Germany, everything is mostly fine, crime is going down, people arent starving, the green energy sector is growing, the immigration levels are manageable. Its extremely clear that all this propaganda is coming from the AFD/CDU + international influences like Musk and Russia, because it all stopped right after they won the election.

Also people dont seem to understand that big changes take longer than 4 years, so just voting for the good guys for one election period isnt going to do much. The current government at any given time is usually busy dealing with the mess left by the previous government. So to people that dont actively engage with politics, it will look like nothing good came from voting for the good guys and they go back to voting for the old center right parties.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Germany has made it a point that nato isn't doing enough in Ukraine, so it has legislated that rearming for offense is now legal.

GERMANY IS NOW ALLOWED ITSELF TO REARM FOR OFFENSIVE WAR, WITH THE AfD GAINING MORE POWER BY THE DAY

Let that sink in for a moment.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If it weren’t for the AfD bit, my reaction would honestly be “good”, considering how integrated and integral Germany has become to the EU as a whole. France, Germany, Poland, and Italy could conceivably become the core of a unified EU military - and I think that’s now obviously necessary, since the US is turning into an adversary state.

With AfD being let back in the building… oof. That’s a big fucking wildcard. I hope France can keep RN/FN down, because them gaining power would be it, I think, for EU unity and democracy.

[–] iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

You motherfuckers even got guns and let it happen. So stop blaming us for the fucking right idiots. Many of us care. A lot.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Ffs, do you all not see what's happening in the USA?! Ya'll are next if you keep tolerating afd

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dont know how the situation is in Germany, but in Argentina boycotting mixed with political incapability and the total indifference of the political arc for certain problems is what fueled Milei's campaign.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

It's the ignoring of people's issues that's the key problem. If the people are hurting and the government aren't doing anything to help them, preferring to bail out corporations or enable their exploitation of their customers/employees, then the people will look for alternatives to vote for.

All the extremists need to do is pay lip service and they have a ready made electoral platform.