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A century ago, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania fought to free themselves from Russian rule—only to be conquered again by the Soviet Union during World War II. When the USSR collapsed in 1991, they emerged devastated but determined to rebuild on Western terms. Over the next three decades, they transformed from poor post-Soviet republics into some of Europe’s fastest-growing economies—embracing democracy, digitalization, and NATO protection. But after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, the old fear returned. Now, the Baltic State s are pouring billions into defense, fortifying borders, and training citizens to fight. Having risen from oppression to prosperity once before, they know exactly what they stand to lose.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bro is yappin a bunch about "uuh provoking russia bad" but that strategy has been tried and proven to be fucking stupid. Russia didnt invade Ukraine because of "provocations" and their goal isnt peace.

[–] Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The only thing Russia understands is power, the EU should be ready to meet them with power.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The EU needs to liberate Kalinigrad ASAP.

[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

No one wants this.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

No me.

I promise I'll be an ineffective and self indulgent ruler. I won't do anything bad, but I won't do anything good either, because I won't do anything.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No. We do not attack others.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

we can liberate it once Russia attacks us.

[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Russia has already offered Königsberg to both Poland and Germany. Neither would accept it.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 3 days ago

yes, because it's filled with Russians. XD

that's a lot different than reclaiming the area via war.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Slightly off topic, but when Russia will finally attack, do you genuinely think the other NATO countries outside of the EU will help? That thought sends a chill down my spine.

[–] purplerabbit@piefed.blahaj.zone 37 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I wouldn't count on the US for shit.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I would count on them siding with russia

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

These days, shit is the only thing for the US can be counted on.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago

I wouldn't either, what I do count on is the US military brass. I am sure that the majority of the officer corps is an avid NATO-supporter and hasn't forgotten that the US actually called the 5th and NATO responded. I say not responding to the 5th will cause a sismic shift in the leadership of the US military.

But I would count on the rest of the allience. I believe everyone except maybe Trump, Orban and Erdogan would help.

But even without them Nato is powerful enough to take down any enemy.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

wouldn't count on the US for shit.

At least there is a US military presence in the Baltics . USA usually doesn't like it very much when their people are attacked or killed. I do hope they are being payed though ( Congressional shutdown and all).

[–] Zabjam@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It is hard to agree to a statement like "USA doesn't like when their people are attacked or killed" when you consider that they are currently starving their poorest because they are having a budget fight over wether to take away health care for a good chunk of their people or not.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

As one of those affected by this US "government" fuckery, I'll say this: the propaganda is very clear. The poor are worth less than national pride, so self-righteous white knighting overseas is likely —if not tradition. 🤢🙇🏼‍♂️

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

when you consider that they are currently starving their poorest

True, I hadn't thought of it in that context, it wasnt my intention to be disrespectful towards the poorest( in USA).

My remark was in part about the worrying prospect of having unpaid (foreign) military from a country with a ambiguous administration, and thr potential risk of it. I imagine that the EU has paid them though.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Ironically, "payed" is a nautical term.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Pretty sure the UK and Canada would fully support the Baltic countries. Turkey is a bit of a dark horse and might stick to relatively minor support.The US... Who the hell even knows.