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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)
[–] korendian@lemmy.zip 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also notable are the Dems completely dodging the question when asked. Senator Kelly for example pivoted to what he thought Dems needed to do going forward as far as fighting for the American people when ask if Schumer should be replaced, without explicitly saying he should. So it's pretty clear that the sentiment is starting to be fairly widespread, but whether it really goes anywhere remains to be seen.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

The sentiment isn't widespread, they want to keep him in power. But they will give some placades for the masses to pretend to oppose Schumer.

Look at their actions, not their words.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What do liberals and leftists have in common?

They both love fighting with leftists.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

At least you understand liberalism is a right wing ideology

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Just vote them all out every single one, left or right leaning, Democrats, Republicans, judges, everyone. Vote for change at every opportunity.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

That's how you get grifters running purely on anti-establishment without any real platform other than enriching themselves.

Its hard, but we need to look at the people we are electing and what we do and don't like about what they're doing and if they can't be pushed into a direction that works for us, then we give them the boot.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And that result is different then the grifters we currently get? I call bullshit on your conclusion good sir.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, its saying take a second to think about what we actually want in a politician, then pushing for those people instead of blindly throwing the baby out with the bathwater, voting for another douche bag who has no platform beyond being anti-establishment, then wondering why things are somehow getting worse.

I feel like what you're hearing from me is "vote blue no matter who" what I'm actually saying is that government won't be fixed by pure cynicism, you need to actually have an opinion about how you want it to function, and I assure you there are probably some people out there who support that vision. If the people representing you do not, then by all means vote them out but also support someone who most closely aligns to what you do want.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We tried it your way and it didn't work. Flush them all till the working classes lives improve.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When have we tried voting as an informed electorate? It doesn't matter how many times we throw them out if we don't pay attention to who we're letting in. What you're proposing is endlessly shuffling a deck and expecting it to magically be sorted after enough shuffles.

The number of morons I've talked to whose entire understanding of politics and policy boils down to them saying "government can't do anything!" or "the two sides just need to come together" infuriates me. We need people to have actual opinions based in reality of both lived experience and informing themselves through things like news stories or town halls, even if its only for a few weeks around voting season. Without that we're just going to have a revolving door of grifters each one leaving with nice full pockets each time they leave.

[–] frizzo@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Cool so you're idea is wait 100 years to educate the general population on, logic, health, critical thinking, civics, etc ... Let me know how that works out as I will be long dead.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no, if we vote out the grifters, then a grifter might get elected.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I'm saying arbitrarily burning everything down without actually thinking about our politics is a recipe for making the same mistakes as last time.

How did the last candidate who promised to drain the swamp end up?

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly it's probably better that they stay quiet and let the establishment Dems get rid of him.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

People need to realize that the American people were just sold out by the Dems again.

And yet again, the progressives and leftists support the party that just openly sold out the American people because they are too cowardly to meaningfully oppose them.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Seth Moulton is an opportunist. Don't mistake him calling for his removal as anything more than a slimy play.

I agree Schumer should be removed, but I do not think Moulton genuinely does. He sucks.c

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bernie is ultimately pretty practical as opposed to political. So he is not going to bother jumping on a bandwagon that does not do very much even if he personally may like to see him gone he cares more about stopping the current facism steamroll and getting real social progression. I don't really know AOC that well.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

If you practically want to stop Fascism the first step is to ditch Chuck Schumer.