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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28402969

"The Texas Senate voted 22-9 to pass Senate Bill 819. The bill places restrictions on solar and wind power projects, requiring new permits, assessing fees, adding new regulatory requirements and placing new taxes on the projects.

The legislation “adds onerous requirements to new solar projects that would not apply to other energy sources except wind,” said the Solar Energy Industry Association (SEIA).

Texas has the nation’s largest utility-scale solar market – a $50 billion industry that has enough solar installed to power nearly 5 million homes. The bill is expected to slow development, raise Texans’ utility bills, harm rural economies, worsen grid reliability and encroach on private property rights.

“This bill will kill renewable energy in Texas,” Jeff Clark, CEO of Texas Power Alliance, said during public testimony.

Senate Bill 819 requires solar and wind projects of 10 MW or larger to obtain a permit from the Texas Utilities Commission to interconnect to the grid. It requires projects to report a notice of applications and hold a public meeting for proposed projects.

The bill also places a new environmental impact review by the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department and established an annual environmental impact fee for permit holders.

SB 819 also requires all permitted facility equipment for solar projects be at least 100 feet from property lines and 200 feet from habitable structures unless it obtains a written waiver from the property owner.

The bill also prohibits property tax abatements for solar or wind projects of 10 MW of capacity or more. Property tax abatements are a common regulatory structure for utility-scale solar projects nationwide.

“We cannot afford to turn away from the pro-energy and pro-business policies that made the Lone Star State the energy capital, but that’s exactly what SB 819 does,” said Daniel Giese, Texas director of state affairs, SEIA. “We urge the Texas House to reject this bill.”

If approved by the House and Governor, the bill is expected to raise electricity costs for Texans. Clean energy is estimated to save ratepayers in the state $11 billion over the last two years.

The restrictions are also expected to lower grid reliability. Solar is the largest source of new generation added to the grid in Texas, and experts from the state’s grid operator ERCOT, the Texas Comptroller’s office, and the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas credit solar and storage for helping the grid remain stable during heat waves and cold snaps.

For rural economies, a slowed solar and wind power industry means less tax revenues. Research from the University of Texas estimates that existing and planned solar, wind and energy storage projects in that state will contribute $20 billion in local tax revenues and $29.5 billion in landowner payments over the life of the projects.

The bill also claws back the right of landowners in Texas to make land use decisions on their private property.

“The state telling landowners that they can’t use their land in the way they see fit is antithetical to the Texas identity,” said SEIA.

The solar industry employs over 12,000 people in Texas. It is expected to add the most solar among all states over the next 5 years, with a projected growth of 41 GW, according to SEIA. For context, the United States has about 224 GW of solar installed cumulatively in its entire history through 2024.

The bill next heads to the Texas House of Representatives for vote. If approved, it will be sent to Governor Greg Abbott for his signature."

  • How much money on big energy causing this through lobbying?
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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 120 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That will fix their energy grid problems.

Everything is bigot in Texas.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Setting aside whether it's a good or bad idea on its own, if the Trump administration is going to have heavy tariffs on solar panels and batteries out of China, my guess is that deploying solar right now is probably not economically viable, or at least considerably less so than it has been.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-dominates-solar-trump-tariffs-133600511.html

China dominates solar. Trump tariffs target China. For US solar industry, that means higher costs

https://www.energypolicy.columbia.edu/qa-solar-tariffs-and-the-us-energy-transition/

The US has taken aggressive actions to diminish the role of Chinese producers in solar supply chains. The costs of solar modules are already two to three times higher[22] in the US than those in Europe. A recent study in Nature[23] estimates that cutting China out of supply chains increases solar module prices 20 to 30 percent compared to a scenario with globalized supply chains. US climate goals are premised on the strategy of making solar and other clean energy technologies cheap; all else equal, more expensive solar makes those targets more difficult to achieve.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-09/trump-tariffs-threaten-spread-of-big-batteries-on-us-power-grid

Trump Tariffs Threaten Spread of Big Batteries on Power Grid

President Donald Trump’s trade war threatens to slow down a fast-growing technology that’s key to the clean-power transition and preventing blackouts — big batteries.

Energy storage devices large enough to feed the electric grid have been spreading across the US, with deployments surging 33% last year. Officials in California and Texas credit them with helping prevent blackouts during heat waves, when electricity demand soars, and integrating variable solar and wind power onto the grid. But despite efforts by former President Joe Biden to build a domestic supply chain, the US still relies heavily on imported lithium-ion batteries — with 69% of the imports made in China, according to the BloombergNEF research provider.

Whether-or-not Texas adds additional barriers on top of that may not matter all that much.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

Maybe for solar and battery tech, but afaik wind tech is mainly us/Europe so that might still be economicaly smart (aside from the environmental reasons they don't seem to care about).

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

“Free market” and “small government” my fucking ass dude.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 57 points 6 days ago (2 children)

lol they’re so braindead. Texas power grid fails almost every year now, and you know what keeps them afloat in the interim? Solar and wind from the western half of the state. They’re shooting themselves in the foot and guaranteeing more of their citizens will die in power outages as a result. Sorry texans, your state government is one of the worst.

[–] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

Cries in yeehaw.

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is totally just a co-inky-dink that Sandow Lakes Energy is trying to build a new gas power plant in Lee County or that Senate Bill 388 mandates that 50% of any new power generation capacity comes from dispatchable sources like natural gas but not from batteries.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

well now, how about that!

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 37 points 6 days ago

This is the kind of legislation generated in Texas. Absolutely dumb and evil.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

But wait I thought conservatives were the party of less regulation, not more! /s

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Only if regulations benefits someone important though

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We're not even this backwards in Florida. Solar is booming out here in the sticks. Our soil sucks in NW Florida, so while you may see miles and miles of woods and forests, the top soil is paper thin, sand all the way to China.

We're happily converting that poor land to solar, fast as we can go. Haven't seen it make a dent in my bill, certain there's plenty of fuckery. We had a cool quasi-private/government power company, our politicians sold us out to all private.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Solar is booming out here in the sticks.

I was gonna say that people in Florida hit hurricanes a lot and also need some kind of local power generation


be it gasoline or whatever


to help mitigate outages from those.

But according to this, in 2021


not a big hurricane year, admittedly:

https://generatordecision.com/states-with-the-most-least-reliable-power-grids/

Florida had the second-most-reliable power grid of any state in the US, with an average of 80 minutes of downtime per user per year, or 99.98% uptime.

EDIT: It's kind of amazing how California manages to have almost the most expensive-in-the-US and fairly unreliable electricity.

EDIT2: They even comment on Florida and hurricanes:

Florida scores well in all three power grid reliability categories.

These are impressive statistics considering this state has to deal with so many hurricanes.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I would guess that the hurricanes are the reason it's so reliable? Old, aging power infrastructure gets blown away/broken and gets replaced. This happens all at once in big events when it's expected, so no one bats an eye.

Elsewhere it would sit there, slowly degrading until it fails peacemeal.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Could be, though if Florida is doing a lot more replacement work, I'd think that electricity prices would be significantly higher, since equipment replacement costs have to be paid by the power consumers. While Florida definitely doesn't have the cheapest electricity, it's about middle of the pack:

https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Our electrical guys are prepared to roll hard and fast after a serious weather event. I'm stunned that so much infra is still above ground though.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Florida had the second-most-reliable power grid of any state in the US, with an average of 80 minutes of downtime per user per year

Reading this is crazy. The last power outage I experienced was about 20 years ago.

Edit: I checked, it's 2.4 average minutes for me each year.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

For what it's worth, wind is huge in West Texas. And as the article points out solar wasnt doing to bad either l. After the failure of NG to keep the grid up during that cold snap they was supposed to be investments in diversifying our grid.

Our politicians are just dumb. Maybe they thought adding solar power to our grid was DEI.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

i can't tell if texans are stupid or just dumb

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago

Cruel, Texans are cruel.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Or idk... without democracy?

[–] Kalon@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Probably hurts farmers/ ranchers most. If I were in TX I'd still be looking to put solar for personal use.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

New Mexico grid scale solar projects about to rapidly increase, I guess.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So, IIRC that's basically what happened in California some years back


California put a lot of restrictions on coal generation in California, and Nevada ramped up coal generation and sold it to California.

Texas, however, has a fairly-unique situation. The federal government doesn't generally have authority to regulate trade internal to states, but does


via the Commerce Clause


have authority to regulate commerce that crosses state lines. They've leveraged that into a lot of control over regulatory authority over state power grids


if a state has a power grid that crosses state lines, then they're subject to federal regulation, which affects all sorts of things interior to the state. Texas decided that it wasn't going to be subject to that, so it refused to connect its power grid to those of other states (though there was one rogue operator that did so until it was discovered and the rest of the Texas power industry made it disconnect; Planet Money had a podcast on it a while back). So you can't just generate power across the border and then provide it to Texas consumers. If Texas changes the viability of a form of power generation in Texas, it changes what the Texas power consumer market has on offer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Interconnection

I'd guess that the same situation probably also applies to Hawaii and Alaska, though in their case, it'd be one imposed by geographic necessity rather than wanting to avoid federal regulation.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Texas decided that it wasn’t going to be subject to that, so it refused to connect its power grid to those of other state

Your information was correct for a long time but is now out-of-date. Texas is connecting to the national grids.

"ERCOT Power Grid Set To Connect To U.S. Grid: What The $360M Project Means For Texas And The Southeast" source

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Jesus fucking christ.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago

Don Quixote strikes again

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I didn't think that humans could get this stupid. I'm genuinely shocked