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Donald Trump's administration is exerting heavy pressure on Ukraine, demanding that it agree to the American-Russian peace plan by Thanksgiving.

Source: Financial Times (FT), citing senior Ukrainian officials and individuals familiar with the negotiations

Details: According to the FT's sources, the White House has set strict deadlines for the negotiation process, insisting that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy agree to the terms of the deal by Thanksgiving, which is celebrated in the United States on 27 November.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Don’t give up Ukraine! Russia is spiraling down the the toilet and Putin is the turd.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 6 points 7 hours ago

fucking HODL!

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 29 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This is surrender that leaves them weakened for when Russia inevitably tried again after given the breather it needs to rearm. As Russia has done multiple times to Ukraine already...

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Yes, but allegedly Putin has the videos of Trump. Ukraine will be sacrificed.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 98 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

How about fuck off instead?

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 53 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This is the only answer.  Russia is already debasing their currency and economy just to keep Putin from admitting failure.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Down to ~170T from their 441T of gold too.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

I imagine that will be delivered by drone. To oil refineries.

Or something that looks expensive, anyways.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 57 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Unitedstatesian here: seriously, tell our regime to fuck off.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I despise "unitedatatesian" as a demonym. If you don't like "American," just say Yankee.

But yeah, Trump needs to either support Ukraine or fuck off. Our nvolvement is only desirable if it involves a shitload of material support to Kiev, not this backstabbing bullshit.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

But why do you despise it? I've heard criticism for Americans taking 'American' when there are many many more countries in The Americas and have yet to see the term above until now, but it doesn't bother me any.

In point of fact: a friend I have from Europe expressed amused appreciation when I first used that term with her, because “American” implies that people from the US are the only population that matters in The Americas (as in, North and South America), and that the default/accepted demonym has some implicit ownership/overlordship overtones, and I don’t disagree.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I don't disagree about "American" being too vague, or the implied cultural supremacy over the rest of the Americas, I just hate the specific term "Unitedatatesian" because it's long and ridiculous. Besides, it doesn't really solve the problem of vagueness, it just shifts the question from "Where in the Americas" to "Which United States," since (while the USA is probably the first country you think of when someone says "America" or "United States") there are other federal republics, some of which use the same or similar language.

If you want to use a seperate word that's more specific to the United States of America, we already have one that's deeply connected to our history and culture, which is easy to say, and which won't get us confused with people of any other country: "Yankee." It's even used already in a lot of countries, notably by the English, and variants of it are used in other countries.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 28 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Putin is really pushing it because Russia is spiraling down in a very tight "and then it got worse" loop that is getting shorter and shorter by the day.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

Especially now that they've had to start selling off their gold reserves, which is going to crater the ruble even further.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago

Russia will not stick to any deal. Even the complete surrender and subjugation of Ukraine will just lead to Putin putting more focus on his actives in Europe.

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Part of me wants to believe Diddlin Don wants to push this through ASAP so he can claim he did something "worthwhile" before he gets slammed with Epstein file controversy, but the cynic in me believes those files have already been fucked with and altered beyond actual use.

I'd like for Ukraine to reject this deal but we'll see what Zelensky does, I guess.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I talk out of my ass here, but I expect Zelenskyy to unzip his pants and make the helicopter with his cock in response to such a ridiculous and desperate attempt.

Nah keep on fighting, the Russian economy will collapse any day now