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The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile USA is fully prepared to comfort Russia.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I had to read the title 3 times, because even for the second read through I read 'NATO is preparing to comfort Russia'.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago (24 children)

Thankfully Russia can't afford to stretch themselves much more. I implore them to try something it shouldn't take much to fuck them at this point.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

Those two things are not synonymous.

Romanian military are concerned it would take allies time to get to the front (I.e. it would take time for NATO to mobilise in the event of an unanticipated invasion of Romania). However firstly that doesn't mean victory wouldn't be ultimately achieved (allied forces had a bad time of it during the first part of the second world war, but ultimately were victorious) and secondly it assumes that Russia would be able to rally its forces (what forces) and initiate a surprise invasion despite Europe heavily monitoring Russian military activity. Which all seems unlikely.

I'm also unclear about why 260 km is considered an insurmountable distance. In an emergency that distance could be covered in a couple of hours, (I'm assuming that liberation forces and not required to obey the speed limit) presumably everyone would be going the other way in any case.

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

How much can one bullet cost?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (18 children)

it would really be something else if they fought them off successfully and the united states looked like pussies and assholes

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago

They already do. US is currently the only country pushing for surrender (note, it's not just Ukraine, peace plan forces stuff from US too, including industry help and money) while negotiating with terrorists. It will take a very long time for me to see US in the same light I used to. Imagine US surrendering to ISIS. Beyond humiliating.

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[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 36 points 2 days ago (14 children)

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I love how it occurs so naturally that by the time I come into a post that talks about Russia and Ukraine, half the posts are already limited and I can't expand threads because people replying are ones I've already blocked in other posts for being absolutely developmentally challenged.

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