CannonFodder

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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 58 minutes ago (1 children)

You do realize that Hamas is still fighting with guns and rockets against Israel, right?

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're a genocide supporter then. Hamas wants to genocide Israel. And you are supporting Hamas.
I don't support Israel's actions in Gaza.
I was just pointing out that by calling it an occupation, then an occupying force has the responsibility of providing safety and stability to the occupied lands. And Hamas, in that context, would be a barrier to that.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

It grew spontaneously in a relative time of peace before the October attacks. They are financed and supported from abroad - they won't 'dissipate' unless they are forced to.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

I think communication and general moral consensus matters. If people voiced their dislike and contempt for Hamas half as much as they do for Israel, it could have the effect of diminishing Hamas' purpose for continuing this war.
But I think a lot of commenters actually support Hamas, and the violence it keeps doing. But they won't actually admit that. So it makes it hard to understand.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Negotiated ceasefires would always have conditions. That's not an 'unconditional surrender'.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

Israel would stop if Hamas unconditionally surrendered and released all hostages. They would have to, and they would. And they would continue to occupy Gaza and be assholes, but the violence would go way down and the aid embargo would be lifted.
If you all are so condemning of Hamas, why is the response to 'if only Hamas would surrender' so angry and attacking of Israel. Why deflect this way? Yes if Israel weren't doing bad stuff there would be less bad stuff happening; but that's a different thing.
You react vehemently against the notion that Hamas should surrender but claim you agree Hamas should surrender.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

In that context, Israel has an obligation to root out and destroy Hamas in Gaza.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There certainly is a lack of talk. The bulk of Trump supporters only get 'news' from a curated rightwing media source. They do not know about the situation in Gaza or the U.S. support for it. They do not know that Trump is threatening Canada's sovereignty. They are not all inherently evil for supporting the right wing, they are ignorant of reality. Communication and education is key. And we can't beat the billionaires unless we find a way to allow truthful communication to actually happen.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (10 children)

BS. Netanyahu may have encouraged Hamas at some point , but they only continue because they want to hurt Israel and they don't care about the starving children in Gaza any more than Israel does. Look on these message boards; many people refuse to put any blame on Hamas. Just me suggesting Hamas should surrender evokes responses only about how Isreal is responsible. It seems that the supporters of Gaza don't want Hamas to surrender - they say they don't like children starving, but seemingly not so much that they'd like Hamas to surrender. It's really strange when you think about it.

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