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I'm one of those hipsters who doesn't use streaming services.

I did, a while ago, but I quit using them because the experience is kind of awful, and I'm happier now for it. I collect physical media and watch it using Jellyfin on my Linux-based home theater PC, and I'm completely satisfied with how it works.

I'm making this video because I am really troubled by algorithmic helplessness, and I feel like corporate-centralized streaming media makes that worse. Maybe this video will encourage someone else to cut the cord and rediscover an appreciation for owning your media and being choosy about what to "watch next". Or maybe I'm just wasting time. Who knows? I suppose, you know, you're reading this description, right?

If you read the description, say "algorithmic helplessness sucks" in the comments. That'll make me feel better.

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[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

The thing I hated about Netflix was the stress of knowing i was being watched with my viewing habits and that affected how they decided to cancel or continue shows.

Imagine being a customer at a restaurant and the chef is in the back watching you eat, saying things like:

"well, if he doesn't eat the whole thing in less than 10 minutes that means he probably hated it and won't continue to buy more burgers, so we should just remove it from the menu now and never serve that burger again."

Who the fuck wants to 'relax' and watch stuff when i know if I start watching something and stop after episode 1 because I liked it, realize my partner might also like it, and I wait 3 months to watch it together (not within their 30 day or whatever window), knowing that might contribute to Netflix canceling a show that I fucking liked in the first place!

SO RELAXING GUYS!

So no, I don't stream stuff anymore. I'm sick of paying for content that constantly gets canceled, and also experiencing stress while doing so.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Side note, the restaurant analogy is exactly why I hate the seemingly American style of service where the waiter asks how the food is halfway through.

I guess that's a good analogy for how creepy surveillance capitalism is, it's like a waiter judging and recording your every move and reaction throughout the entire meal.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure where you're eating, but wait staff ask that so they can correct any issues before it impacts their tip, not because they're keeping tabs on you.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (7 children)

American style of service where the waiter asks how the food is halfway through

So that's what's going on! I was wondering why people are doing that everywhere I eat out all of a sudden. Bloody annoying. Me with a mouth full of food having to force out a "yhh shh rlly gwwd tnnk yww".

Gtfoutahurr

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

just one of the many negatives of tip culture

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I mean... that IS how restaurants work. If people don't order the fish of the day then they buy fewer and fewer fishes until it is no longer a thing. Even the speed people eat DOES matter since restaraunts tend to be designed around each customer spending a certain amount of time dining. Too short and they will never order a dessert. Too long and they are costing you money while they nurse that coffee.

And similar happens with even buying blu-rays. If nobody bought Master and Commander in 4k then you can be sure that experiment would be over. Instead? That thing sold like toiler paper during COVID and we'll likely see more "prestige" releases with a huge dose of FOMO.

As for up fronts versus long tails? Guess what is motivating all those revivals "nobody asked for"?

Don't get me wrong. I vastly prefer to rip blu rays to my NAS and watch via plex. But the idea that you are somehow no longer part of the marketing cycle is just... wrong.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (6 children)

The only way to stop corporate greed is to stop consuming. Easy to say, hard to do, but not impossible. I've lived most of my life striving to be as self sufficient as humanly possible, and that has carried me over into self hosting.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sorry, but revolution is a far simpler way to stop corporate greed than trying to change everyone’s buying habits.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Go hiking, exercise, play sports with your mates. Take up a physical hobby like blacksmithing, electronics even woodworking. Spend the weekends on small projects, DIY drones, a wooden sculpture, a small knife made from recycled corrugated steel. Join a volunteer group, do charity work, help out in the soup kitchen. Nowadays it's easier than ever to not consume content.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not the person you're answering to, but: You say this as if everybody enjoys manual labor, sports and/or outdoor activities. None of the proposed activities elicits the least amount of interest for me, for example.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

People should go outside atleast. The sun is bright and beautiful, the skies blue, the beaches are warm and the ocean smells kinda salty.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 15 hours ago

100% agreed.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

And many of those activities include consumption. If you're doing more than casual hiking, you probably aren't using second-hand shoes from the thrift store.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

The point it being is that consumption plays a supportive role in the activity. Consumption is NOT the activity. You buy shoes to do the activity instead of you buy a movie to watch the movie.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This video was what convinced me to start up a Jellyfin server last month. It's fantastic. The peace of mind knowing that I have all my media stored locally, forever, is so satisfying.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, forever might be too strong of a word.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, how about "for as long as I maintain the hardware"?

[–] NullCypher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Or you accidentally delete it and have no backups because "this would never happen to me" until it does.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I miss the days of people having their own bespoke collection of their favorite movies and shows. Everything is homogenized now. At least when I pirate, I'm still building my own personal media library. And I never have to worry about the show I like being removed later.

But I'm not gonna lie. The quality drop off in content caused by streaming services I think is a bigger issue

Netflix activity tries to make content that's not actually good enough to watch without browsing a phone. Second screen content, they call it. And I guarantee someone in a finance role realized they could make way more by doing just enough to keep people, rather than try to actively create amazing content, because it's soo much cheaper to not pay for good writers, or good set designers or actors when you could just find someone who's good enough. I think it's because the money people spend is recurring, linked to the service as a whole, and not linked to the individual work.. users have to vote by watching now, and some of the best stuff I've ever seen is also some of the least watched.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm all for this, but acquiring the media outside of streaming services in the first place is difficult, likely by design. There's no GOG for movies and TV; there's not even a Steam. My wife is basically permanently subscribed to Peacock because she loves Law and Order: SVU, to the point that she basically has the whole series on loop while she knits. I started looking this time last year into how to self-host all that, but I didn't even get to the point of finding out what Jellyfin is before I realized that it was impossible to legally acquire all the seasons on Blu Ray or even DVD. They want me to either subscribe to Peacock or buy a "digital copy", which is just rental streaming by another name. I'm not a skilled enough pirate to know that my ISP isn't going to mind my activity, and being a skilled pirate isn't even something I'm interested in being. Plus, my past experiences with piracy is that beggars can't be choosers, and the bit rate could be awful, or it would have huge watermarks from whatever Canadian channel the pirate recorded from, and that's not a great experience when it's supposed to be a gift anyway.

Unlike the video author, I'm not even bothered by algorithmic recommendations for media. I actually like it. The main reason I want to self host my media is because I don't watch so much of it that a subscription price makes sense very often. If my wife and I are just watching the same couple of things over and over again, why do I need a buffet of content I'm not going to watch at monthly subscription prices?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So bizarrely the best experience is to self host and pirate. That's what you get when the entire entertainment industry is hostile to consumers.

When Netflix first became big, it was popular because it was a one-stop shop for almost all your content. It was like a big library of content in one place, you pay a reasonable monthly fee and it's all there. Piracy dipped as a result.

Now all the content is fragmented into numerous walled gardens you have to pay separate fees to access. People can only consume the same amount but now they have to pay 4 or 5 fees as the content is spread out.

Unsurprisingly piracy is booming again.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I don't even mind that there are so many different streaming services. It's still a far better version of cable, where I can opt into ad-free for a few more dollars and sign up for or cancel a given service at will without having to have all of them. What sucks is when it's the only legal distribution channel and I can't make the choice that's right for me based on my consumption, like buying just the movies and shows I want and playing them how I want. Demonstrated in the video, we still need what can most accurately be categorized as a workaround or a hack to even rip our own Blu Rays. All that plus the streaming services have raised their prices beyond the point where it's an attractive deal.

[–] TurdBurgler@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is why the seedbox SaaS market exists. Providing turn key hosted solutions, the only heavy lifting is the configuration which takes some reading to understand.

Check out the Servarr Wiki, Ombi, Syncthing as a starting point for media discovery and curration tooling.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Steam attempted to distribute movies between 2014 and 2019.
GOG gave up at the beginning of 2025.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I'm aware. This is a problem that the movie and TV industry don't appear to be interested in solving. And they seemingly operate as a massive cartel, so one studio isn't about to break out on its own and innovate with a DRM free movie store.

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

yeah okay well your watchparties are increasingly going to get worse until you too hit your threshold: such is the business.

the rest of the world uses a VPN like MullvadVPN and qBittorrent to "digitally back up media we've already bought". without ads, in better quality, without telemetry, without serfdom-subscriptions. you may like AI offloading your decisionmaking, but keep doing it and you will be codependent on authority for choosing anything in life. what do you want in a cozy moment away from work? it frustrates me to read people are too anxioys to begin to do otherwise and accept the way things are. that's a rant in return

have a nice day, i won't make this into a chain of replies.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I love her.

Can't help it but think of a world with more ppl like her in it.

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