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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 326 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Microsoft has gone all-in on AI to the detriment of basically every other aspect of their business. They are in deep deep shit when the bubble finally pops.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago (6 children)

And I am so ready for the bubble to burst.

15% of the total United States GDP is a single company. I struggle to comprehend the scale of that, but one thing is for certain; it's going to bite us in the ass eventually.

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 137 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

15% of the total United States GDP is a single company

no, it is not. you struggle to comprehend it because it is not true.

it is comparing different things. one is a valuation, the other is the value of goods and services over a year. the comparision would be with yearly revenue of a company

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The stat that's going around at the moment is that 30% if the GDP is transactions between the "Magnificent 7". That one is fair because it's economic activity.

The underlying economy is in recession with the AI frosting on top pushing it to break even levels.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stock valuation of a company is not calculated int the GDP. Only domestic revenue is. There is no company that makes trillions in revenue.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

True, but Nvidia's market cap is still equal to 15 percent of 30.486 trillion. What's worse is that it's ALL built on speculation.

This house of cards WILL fall.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nvidia is less speculation that the other companies mixed up in this. They at least sell physical goods which they've been shipping.

Microsoft, Google, X, Meta - Oh boy!

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They haven't. Part of the reason the bubble is so bad is that NVIDIA has been giving credit incentives to openai and other llm companies. Essentially giving them money so they use it to buy NVIDIA chips, so they can claim higher sales numbers. But there's no revenue. The AI bubble is 4 or 5 companies shuffling money to each other to inflate numbers so investors inject more money.

The only ones making bank are CEOs when they take their bonuses and cash outs. The companies themselves are bleeding. OpenAI needs something like $700 billion dollars more to survive until 2030. LLMs simply don't make any money. Any savings from ai use has been from layoffs. It will all eventually crash out when it is obvious that AI use ultimately hurts revenue, no matter how much it saves in production.

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[–] PrinceOfSloth@lemmy.zip 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

dont worry govt bailouts with public money will come in. Socialism for the rich and capitalism for the poor.

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago

Completely gave up on the console wars thing too for AI. Such ridiculous leadership by Sadya

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Azure might keep them afloat but everything else will likely crumble and they'll have to downsize to mostly just being a cloud provider.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 137 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The original blog post is rather frank and to the point. Wish the engineering leadership I worked with communicated this well.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In the end, we opted for a simple strategy, sidestepping GitHub’s aggressive vendor lock-in: leave the existing issues open and unmigrated, but start counting issues at 30000 on Codeberg so that all issue numbers remain unambiguous. Let us please consider the GitHub issues that remain open as metaphorically “copy-on-write”.

Do you know anything about the referenced vendor lock-in?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Basically all the stuff that is build by GitHub and not part of git. Like the pull request discussion boards that is not stored in the git repository. They can’t transfer that out of GitHub to another git host.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Aha, shrewd…

Thank you

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[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

The fucking lunacy of the AI bros he lists as examples...

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 106 points 1 month ago (1 children)

GitHub, more like QuitHub, amirite?

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More like, GetOuttaThereHub, huh? huH?

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Codeberg doesn't need billions of users... Just the right ones.

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[–] Klear@quokk.au 69 points 1 month ago (5 children)
[–] fargeol@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] hayvan@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago

What you say!

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Take off every Zig!

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 18 points 1 month ago

All your codebase belong to us!

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[–] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I wish Microsoft keeps up with its AI obsession and push as much as possible. At some point they’ll realize the reputation damage, but the longer it will take the better. Just stop the negative publicity

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Move ZIG for great justice!

[–] projectsquared@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Greetings, fellow internet pioneer! Don’t forget to take us up the bomb!

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

Make your time

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 month ago

We know what you doing

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Somebody set us up the bomb!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Make your time.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

…The same Zig that ditched LLVM, to make their own compiler from scratch?

This is good. But also, this is sort of in character for Zig.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 23 points 1 month ago

I feel like I'm in good company, I moved my stuff to my own forgejo instance about two month ago because finally I had some time to set one up. I wanted to do it for years because it was embarrysing to host open source code on a closed source platform ran by Microsoft. But my main kick in the but to really just do it was their CEO told his workers to embrace AI or get out: https://www.businessinsider.com/github-ceo-developers-embrace-ai-or-get-out-2025-8 I knew this is not the place to be anymore.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I've been enjoying zig.

It feels like when I go to write C, but without a bunch of code churn/copy paste on getting just the right memory management interface.

It's not perfect, and the API churn makes it really annoying to find decent documentation. But it's fun.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Xbox. Lol. Microsoft has the Mierda touch.

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[–] vogi@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Love Codeberg. Just wish there would also be HackerHill, BytePeak and SoftwareSummit with federation!

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[–] D1re_W0lf@piefed.world 14 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Let me guess… Thanks to this “bug” Microsoft / GitHub are charging their paying costumers for something that otherwise would be just idle time. 🤔

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[–] biofaust@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am a wanna-be coding data analyst who has decided to start directly in Codeberg, more because of anti-US than anti-AI sentiment.

I have 2 questions for everyone more experienced than me and in general more knowledgeable of the market dynamics:

  1. How far is Forgejo/Codeberg from feature parity with Github?
  2. I don't see any public SaaS/tools connecting to Codeberg as they are with Github. Is this by design or is it due to lack of reception? And, in your opinion, what would be a kind of service/connector that would really change things if made available for Codeberg?
[–] killabeezio@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I highly doubt there will ever be parity. There will also be some differences where there can be improvements made over GitHub. Right now you only hear about individuals moving over or open source software. This is mainly because they don't need the enterprise features that GitHub has. I am not sure if you self hosted forgejo if you would get those as well. It's meant to be free. This is the biggest thing that would be missing. For individuals, I don't think you'll notice many differences.

For your second question. It doesn't matter. What matters is git. There are 2 main ways to access this. SSH and http. All you really need is git. There are other tools out there like gitlab. Gitlab is pretty decent too, but the workflow is a bit different. You can even self host with gitlab too. You may not see many direct integrations to gitlab either, but people have been working with it for years now. There is also bitbucket. I think forgejo has a better chance at succeeding though if it continues to do what it's doing. Just tailor to the free and open source community. Really the only thing people need to do is create an account and set up some ssh keys. Beyond creating an account, there is no difference in how you clone a repo from GitHub and codeberg. Just copy the URL and do git clone.

TL;DR GitHub and codeberg have different missions. It will be a similar experience and features for individuals or open source projects are close to the same on both platforms. You probably won't notice much of a difference.

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[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 month ago

Go go gadget-o Codeberg !

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