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Do we have a web browser that uses Servo engine yet?
Not even remotely close yet unfortunately.
Recently I go fucking annoyed by Mozilla that I rage-contributed (monthly payment) to Servo.
Mozilla is such a shit show.
For me the requirements in a browser are:
- Works without many issues
- Has extensions (or built-in features) that do what NoScript, Ublock Origin, Dark Reader, CanvasBlocker, and Redirector do on LibreWolf
- Relatively secure
- Open source and free from corporate evil
- Not annoying in any major ways
When the required extensions get made for Falkon, I'm probably switching
When they are in late beta or ready for use, I will try Servo-based browsers and Ladybird
currently I use LibreWolf
LibreWolf has been quite good to me. I just allow cookies on my most used websites and it's been perfectly fine to use.
I daily driver QuteBrowser and have for awhile now. I like it. does everything I need it to do and the vim style navigation is awesome.
Sure there are some quirks that can be solved via userscripts and trust me I have a lot written for it but everything that requires an extension in firefox or chrome i have working on Qutebrowser. I don't get adds with youtube in fact dare I saw I have it set up better than what you could get on Firefox or Chrome, I have my password management via bitwarden, it all just works. And the dev, The Compiler, is great and is always on top of issues that come up.
there's yet to be any site i've come across that just doesn't work.
The first ( without the ) is making me go crazy haha
God I'm happy to not be the only one. I read the thing the times trying to figure out where it was closing it
#Error
Cant wait for servo to be functional asap so we get a real alternative that is free and open source
It renders... so what is missing for you to use it?
Time to switch to LibreWolf or something else.
Can I use that to sync passwords, history, etc. between phone and PC in some way of form, even if self-hosted?
I've been on librewolf for years, and as long as I'm running the FlatPak version, all Firefox extensions work. Having said that, you do have a few options to sync. One is using your Firefox account (I don't suggest you do because of Mozilla's BS over the past year or so, but you would be sharing way less stuff this way). In my case, the only thing I want synced in browsers is the bookmarks, so I use floccus extension in every browser, floccus app in android, and host them all in a self-hosted linkwarden instance. I hope that helps.
contrast with vivaldi explicitly taking a no ai stand in the browser.
But also not open source.
True. Still, afaik, they haven't done anything shady.
They also haven't written a browser. It's an apples and oranges comparison. There are plenty of Firefox derivatives that don't have all the bloat that Mozilla, et cetera, is putting into there. That's not the point. The point is how controlled they are by one of their competitors, namely Google.
There are only three main browser makers. Chrome by Google Firefox by Mozilla and WebKit/Safari now maintained by Apple but derived from Linux's K desktop environment web engine. There are a lot of wrappers written around these, but at the end of the day, there's still just the three.
The one real interesting bright spot though that I'm looking forward to is servo. Originally started by Mozilla, but now completely free of them. It's not yet in a daily driver's state, but it's looking to be quite interesting.
Out of curiosity, how are Konqueror and Falkon relates to the big three?
Their websites say they use KHTML or KDEWebkit (Konqueror) or QtWebEngine (falkon). Are these downstream adaptations of apple-WebKit?
Judging by the QtWebEngine page, it doesn't explicitly say it, but I think it is based on chromium.
Konqueror is a bit harder to figure out. Maybe QtWebKit. Is this also Chromium?
Apple’s WebKit (WebCore+JavaScriptCore) was originally a fork of KHTML/KJS. They shared at the beginning but not very well. They eventually opened up their source and made changes that were more friendly to other developers. A lot of browsers and embedded renderers use WebKit, now, besides Safari and KDE based ones.
Google forked WebCore for Chromium. I don’t think they share a codebase, anymore. Edge, Opera and many embedded renderers use Chromium.
Anyway, I just think it’s interesting that most every browser out there is descended from KHTML.
Which is entirely not the point.
Sigh. At this rate I can see a day where I end up switching to WebKitGTK's MiniBrowser as my main rather than having it as a "secret" backup.
I won't use regular Vanilla FF. I do like Zen tho!
Is there any good alternative to FF that is cross device compatible and keep my sessions between said devices, but without me having to press anything more than "Install" or to type "apt-get install firefox"?
I hear a lot of these newer open source friendly browser, but switching between my pc/notebook/phone/tablet, is a requirement. I'd love to find something that fit that so I could switch.
^(edit: typo)