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[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

good covers with the orange man.

Holy shit! Der Spiegel really have been busy. Some really good ones too.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 49 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Should be the other way around. Trump is the "serious" guy, while Putin is the one laughing in the back "holding the strings".

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is the jolly face to the public and Putin is the straight man, intelligent enough to make decisions.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago

Trump is the evil Costello to Putin's malevolent Abbot.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I agree for a different reason. Trump bottoms and Putin tops.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have the impression that, not instantly, but in a couple of years, their two countries will be regretting all this.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 19 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure how countries can regret anything, but as a Russian I've been regretting Putin for the last 18 years since I was old enough to understand politics a bit.

Yeah yeah, and yet I didn't stop him, I know.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

At least you're aware, and not here gas lighting us.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How do you feel watching it all happen in Hungary, US,

... Italy (we'll see, depending on US backing), Venezuela, Turkey on the way too I guess and looming in UK/DE/FR. It's spreading like a contagion in very different societies with different inequalities, safety nets, work cultures and subgroups...I blame the social media format for favouring illiberal ideas through the way it was engineered...

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 hours ago

I feel badly, of course, and have 2 observations.

  1. As we know from many credible reports, Russia directly supported the raise of populism and polarization of societies in many countries. There are Russian traces in Brexit, AfD raise, USA elections in 2016 and 2024, etc.
  2. What I see currently in the USA reminds strongly of what happened in Russian politics across the last 3 decades, but squished into months, not even years.

So yeah, I'm worried. But I also hope that once Putin is gone, many authoritarian political forces would fold like a house of cards.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Have you seen the polling in the US? He's trying to gin up a literal drug war for a reason.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

So you're saying the invasion in Venezuela is only another item in the propaganda toolbox?

[–] CHAPINONG@feddit.dk 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m sure that many of their peoples already do

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Regretting implies we ever supported it

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

No, you could have regretted it already when it happened.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago

Well let's be clear. Far too many of us do. Problematically, most of them are far too insulated from reality to understand or care. They just want what they want and fuck anyone else.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

I didn't, yet I still can't wrap my hand around what my people has been doing since 24.02.2022, and my mind goes into the past asking what coould've I done to prevent this to no result.

[–] HowRu68@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Trumptator never smiles, that's why he looks so odd on this pic.

[–] regdog@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

You got it the wrong way around: Trump does smile sometimes, but Putin never smiles in pictures.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't usually read it, but this time I need to buy one. On real paper, because paper outlasts wars.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

Well said:)

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Without Putin/ Russia, Trump never wins 2016.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 6 points 19 hours ago

Never underestimate americans.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 15 hours ago

I think you may be lying to yourself to ignore the truth about your fellow humans

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Putin played us against ourselves. But he didn't create it. Just harnessed it. The government has been full of sycophantic yes men, for generations at this point. Longer than Gen Z or Millennials have been alive. Likely longer than Gen X has been alive as well.

Yes, Nixon stepped down in shame. But they didn't make sure there could be no new Nixon's. They made sure they'd be insulated from consequences or shame and elected someone worse.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Finally, what is left of the German press woke up.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sorry, but no.

There is nothing left even remotely resembling journalism and they only focus on Trump so they can ignore the MAGA friends in Germany's goverment doing variations of the exact same shit.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Wut? Have you read Spiegel, SZ or TAZ in the last years?

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, actually just minutes after this comment I saw the latest joke at Spiegel writing about far-right European parties and the AfD in Germany in particular building up connections with MAGA in the US... while just -and totally concidently of course- forgetting to say a single word about the fact the the governing CDU did exactly the same and there are several loud massive MAGA-fanbois in their leading ranks right now.

That's not journalism. That's a laughable "Look over there! Nothing happening here"-diversion.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago

Honestly. Nobody remembering Spahn going to visit with maga and heritage foundation, obviously building networks and learning strategy... Yeah it's not great that the afd is doing it but the press needs to do a better job showing similarities between these actions

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 1 points 17 hours ago

Sadly this…

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you mean? The German press has always been both Anti-Trump and Anti-Putin. Even way before 2022

[–] trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Largely they have been pretending that Trump is in any way sane and not totally unhinged.

The problem of him very obviously being a Russian Asset has also been downplayed a lot.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

I guess same with Putin – he was painted a pragmatic villain and not a senile man with nukes that he is.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How could Trump with his known Russian connections get past the American billionaires?

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They and the Heritage Foundation find him to be a useful idiot.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Which means that he fulfills their goals and whatever benefits Russia is a coincidence.