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After the controversial news shared earlier this week by Mozilla’s new CEO that Firefox will evolve into “a modern AI browser,” the company now revealed it is working on an AI kill switch for the open-source web browser.

On Tuesday, Anthony Enzor-DeMeo was named the new CEO of Mozilla Corporation, the company behind the beloved Firefox web browser used by almost all GNU/Linux distributions as the default browser.

In his message as new CEO, Anthony Enzor-DeMeo stated that Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software while remaining the company’s anchor, and that Firefox will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.

What was not made clear is that Firefox will also ship with an AI kill switch that will let users completely disable all the AI features that are included in Firefox. Mozilla shared this important update earlier today to make it clear to everyone that Firefox will still be a trusted web browser.

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[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 47 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Repeat after me. "There is no such thing as a non physical kill switch"

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. Have no reason to trust it does what it says it does. Only way to prove that is for someone to dig into the browser while its running to debug/investigate/etc, things that are way above most peoples capability.

and even if it does what it says it does, no reason to believe that it wont default to on with the next update.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just gonna say this. The former head of CIA had his laptop camera taped over. If he doesn't trust the digital toggle. Neither should you.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Hackers have already proven that your webcam can be activated and monitored without the indicator LED even turning on.

If hackers are capable of it, you know the CIA have been doing it for even longer.

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's nice but it's not good enough. There needs to be a compile flag so the AI code isn't even included at all.

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 hours ago

And disabled by default. You're not consumer friendly until it is opt-in.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

i wish they would release a second browser instead of whatever this is

[–] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago

At this point, even Brave that markets itself as "privacy first" is embracing AI. It seems like Firefox could differentiate itself from the rest of the market by being staunchly anti-AI, even in their development practices.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago

Or they could just ship it without the AI

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Would be nice if folks stopped calling LLMs AI. If they are true AI, they would be able to learn how a kill switch works and disable it

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

We already have a term for "true" AI, it's AGI - Artifcial General Intelligence.

Both AGI and LLMs are types of artificial intelligence, as are things like OCR, speech to text systems, or chess engines, and a ton of other things, it's a vast field of computer science.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

So, an actual artificial brain?

Can I secretly upload mine?

EDIT: Don't worry! It's small enough to fit!

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Until the bad press dies down and they feel like removing it

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 18 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The Microsoft way:

"Why do you disable that"

"You're weird. Everyone uses that"

"You cannot disable that"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

I think it says something that they're backpedaling at all. This isn't just "bad press", its a real market for people who want products that are "AI Free". And since Firefox is the other-other browser, its a market they're feeling obligated to fill.

[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

I think they should keep the murderous name, because at this point who DOESNT want AI dead?

[–] nostrauxendar@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Just don't add the surveillance and spam features in the first place. 👍 Fuck off, Mozilla.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It has to be opt-in or they can go fuck themselves

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

It's not mentioned in the reporting, but according to the source they say it is going to be opt-in (or at least something with opt-in in mind)

[–] oftenawake@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

They could save themselves all that bullshit by just not bothering with any of it!

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[–] eli@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

I'm already trying out LibreWolf on desktop and IronFox on mobile.

So far everything is working, probably another week of testing/using and then I'll just uninstall Firefox.

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 45 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well they're clearly not taking it all that seriously as it should be an Opt-IN feature, not an Opt-Out. They're banking on a majority non tech savvy userbase to not even bother disabling it. fine, whatever, that's on the user.

But it's just more Firefox bloat that I have zero desire to deal with. If I wanted bloat in my browser I'd go use Vivaldi.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Firefox updates

New Features Popup

"NEW: AI enchanced features!"
"Enable?"

Its not rocket science. Enable the AI crap to pay the heads of your stockholders andale it Opt-IN to keep users happy.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 22 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

This is a response to all the backlash. Oops, we"forgot" to mention you can completely turn this all off... (Quick, vibe code a kill switch guys!)

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (9 children)

Y'know what's even better than a Kill-switch?

Not including it at all.

And that's why I've switched to Waterfox, which honestly, everyone should, show them that it's not good enough, by switching browser.

!waterfox@programming.dev

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

That is nice and all I rather not have AI baked into it at all. I switched to Watefox instead.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Oh, it “wasn’t made clear” SUUURE. Addressing a blowback could be way better if you admitted a mistake instead of gaslighting your users. Not the way to earn back lost trust.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Mozilla shared this important update earlier today to make it clear to everyone that Firefox will still be a trusted web browser.

It would be trusted if that shit wasn't in there to start with. Isn't firefox like the big "extensions" browser? Why not make this an extension that people could download if they're stupid enough to want it?

They're acting like they're Microsoft tying IE to Windows 98.

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Will stick to Librewolf and Ungoogled Chromium but thanks anyway

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 25 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Why not start with disabling it by default and see how many people switch it on?

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