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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Abrahamic religions in particular have created so many problems for humanity.

[–] just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Humans have also created so many problems for humanity

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And what guise did those problems come in?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Roman Pagans were famously awful for women's rights. And the New Atheist movement is full of sex pests on both sides of the Atlantic.

Toxic Masculinity exists independently of religious doctrine

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago

Well yeah. Bigotry doesn't limit itself, never has, never will.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I have a feeling Women’s Rights are in a decline globally.

Womencs rights will decline if it serves the ruling class.

When women were not in workforce, our rulers were pro-contraceptives and abortion. So women would enter workforce and which would increase worker competition and decrease wages. Today when people are not having kids, and its starting to threaten the ruler's workforce, they are now against abortions and contraceptives.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not all countries claim that they care about women rights though. Those who claim they are but practically they are not are worse

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel is currently on an absolutely bloodthirsty genocide bender right about now. The fact that it doesn’t give two shits about women’s rights is quite a bit further down the priority list from where it doesn’t give two shits about life in general, and is violently unaliving most everyone not like them in the region

Pretty ironic, actually.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Actually it was always a bloodthirthy genocidal state

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 180 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you're telling me this ethnostate is discriminating against people??

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 9 points 3 days ago

I'm shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

unsurprising

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 41 points 3 days ago

A country known for making war crimes and genocides doesn't support human rights? Consider me as surprised.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Well when a country decides to go all in on religion...

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 105 points 4 days ago
[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 80 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Once they’ve killed all the Palestinians and journalists, the IDF will need someone new to shoot

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You joke but this is why fascism isn’t sustainable. You always need a scapegoat and eventually your gonna run out of them as you make your population more and more uniform.

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No you don't run-out:

Factionalism will always provide more "enemies" for that-Way.


"Corps Business: the 30 Management Principles of the US Marines" identified something in our nature, in 1 of the principles:

IF you just keep accumulating people, in say a village, or orgnaization, there is a point around 150-people, where factionalism sets-in.

Al Gore & Associates ( Goretex ) intentionally limits the parking-lot size, so that when it's visible that there are now enough people working at a site, that some are parking on the lawn, then they need another site.

Militaries all 'round the world have a 150-person "company" or equivalent, but not a 200-person one..


Even if some rabid ideology exterminates all "others", then it'll fractally divide-up & begin its civil-war, because factionalism is intrinsic to our unconscious-minds..

That'd be true for all except people who trained to dismantle unconscious-narcissism from their unconscious-mind's ruling-of-their-life..

& nobody I've encountered has earned that, except perhaps the Society of Believers ( the Shakers ) community it the US ( @ Sabbath Day Lake, iirc: Christians: they identify that THE primary cause of people not-staying is "too much community" ).


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[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yup. Fascism's ideal end state is two blond guys arguing over who's the whiter one.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

While I don't disagree with you, that isn't at all what he said.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

Im the greyest and blobbyiest!

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 23 points 4 days ago

I'm sure they're efficient enough that they can start shooting new groups before they're completely finished the previous groups.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago

This is unsurprising.

Israel is not known for their love of human rights.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

Women’s rights are on a sharp decline in Israel.

Yeah, that'll happen in a patriarchal theocracy.

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 32 points 3 days ago

You mean fascists don't respect human lives? But muh LGBT equals! Muh only democracy in the region!

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

But I thought that we (U.S. people) were supposed to support them because they are a champion of democracy and human rights.

I'm calling bullshit.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What have either the US or Israel got to do with democracy or human rights nowadays, anyway?

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1369118X.2024.2445637#abstract

Males bullying females is the "wedge" that they use to get far-right totalitarianism's basis in..

It's consistent, through different cultures, & it may be hardwired in our limbic system: bullying women is the basis for male-fascism-totalitarianism.

Counter it XOR fail the Great Filter, humankind..

Having-exterminated-ourselves is a "valid" choice, in Universe's Natural Selection's eyes..

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[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 35 points 4 days ago (9 children)

So all three major religions want to make the lives of women more difficult.

Who'd have thought.

[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I don't know that I'd include judaism on a list of "three major religions." Hinduism and buddhism have much better claims on being in the top three.

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 9 points 3 days ago

In terms of numbers then yes.

But in terms of disproportionate influence then no.

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[–] OppaGundamStyle@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You’re not calling Judaism a major religion are you?

Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, have billions of followers each. Judaism has a few million.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

It has influence disproportionate to the number of followers. (But Hinduism and Buddhism should be ahead of it anyway, this is a very Western perspective)

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

John Kerry warned that Israel can be Jewish, large, democratic, pick two. They picked Jewish and large. Now leopards are coming for faces.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 27 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I don't doubt that Israel is backsliding on women's rights, but this "Women, Peace and Security Index" has got to be bullshit.

They have a bunch of parameters that try to capture the situation of women, and I'm sure that can be useful to gauge which way the wind is blowing for a single country, but it gets kinda ridiculous when Saudi Arabia gets a much better score than Turkey, China, India, Brazil, Iran, and Mexico.

Just a reminder that women were not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia until 2018.

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[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The sky is blue, water makes things wet, blood is red.

Just saying things that are obvious, don't mind me.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I am pretty sure sky is blue deniers exists

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[–] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Fascism does hate wömen, after all

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[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 12 points 3 days ago

Well, the exact same happens in murica. If you partner with ultra religious people, this is the bullshit that'll happen.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I mean I get that's bad, and it's definitely a sign of civilization regressing, and with each step backwards, we continue to inch towards the day where we finally topple any evidence of progress that has been built, and we're lucky if we can even hold it together enough to emerge from the ashes of modern society as feral bands of mud people with some chance of perhaps one day making it back to this same point in another 2000 years or so.

But, is the "loss of women's rights" perhaps offset by the privilege of knowing that even if you lose your rights, you can still be shitty to people of a different ethnicity without concern of public judgment or accountability for your shitty behavior? And if so, isn't that what freedom is all about?

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[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wow, I didn't expect bad people to be bad people 😮

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Right wing government dislikes womens rights, more at 11.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Make a fascist society, get fascist society problems.

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