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[–] scala@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 minutes ago

If they lower their prices of MOBOs to try and generate more sales, that might actually be worth it long term. For RAM, I saw the other day a Laptop RAM conversion to desktop. Which apartment Laptop RAM is still lower priced. There might some interesting Frankenstein builds in the coming months

[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 hour ago

This is hilarious. Intel after many years finally fixed their manufacturing process, but won't be able to sell chips because of memory crunch

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I fear they will pull a GPU and the storage prices will be permanently 50% higher after.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 hours ago

Burst the fucking bubble already. I'm edging so hard right now.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 29 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

At least people aren't buying at these high prices, wouldn't want them to stay there after all.

[–] CoffeeTails@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

This is a good point, we don't need PCs to be this expensive.

I just hope we don't fuck up the whole thing and end up with cloud computers or end up not making new PCs..

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

5 years ago I would’ve called you insane, but with everything happening right now… it’s a distinct possibility.

RAM’s unaffordable, GPU’s will likely be harder to come by and more expensive. Microsoft is actively driving people away from Windows, Steam is launching their Steam Machine…

Here’s hoping many gamers will jump to Linux and grow that platform instead. But even then, too expensive hardware will be an issue.

We’re living in interesting times.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago

That is an increasingly high risk I can see, PCs just no longer exist.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I was thinking of upgrading my RAM this year, but I know I don't have to. It's their loss, not mine.

[–] BilSabab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

who would've thought that it would happen... (checks stats) yeah, it was EVERYONE. Gee, maybe someone needs to learn some supply and demand basics by this point. The tenacity!

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 hours ago

I haven't made any purchases since tariffs drove up prices.

I was prepping to build a new NAS in 2026.

Not anymore sellouts.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Honestly, probably a buy opportunity for good ddr5 motherboards. When the bubble bursts then you can buy the ram for pennies.

Yeah in 2035 when we've moved to DDR7

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 6 hours ago (10 children)

I went from thinking about a full rig upgrade, to just buying the best used processor and GPU my am4 board could handle with my current PSU and ddr4 ram.

Went from a ryzen 1600x and a Nvidia 1060 to a ryzen 5 5600x and a Radeon rx 6600 xt. I'll be able to ride that out for a few years no problem.

[–] UncommonBagOfLoot@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I went from thinking of upgrades to enjoying my backlog of old games. My wallet and library are both happy and I'm enjoying the games I'm playing.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Same here, the Steam Deck changed my life 😆. Less AAA, more AA and indie games, especially at work.

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

funny i bought exactly the same CPU and GPU half a year ago. Someone in my city sold these for 200€.

I was going to go for an AM5 board and everything, but couldn't afford it. My older parts were from 2016 and not even terrible. Its funny how little the hardware requirements have changed in the games and OS area. I am still using the same 16g RAM and PSU from 2016.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Ryzen 5600x here, was rocking a 6700 XT but found a good deal on a RX 9070 for $540 right around when the RAM prices increased. Already have 32 GB RAM, so I'm set for a while.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 11 points 6 hours ago

The artificial price hikes actually saved you money. Noice!

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

AM4 unite! Have had 3600X and 2070 super since 2019 and still works well. Although some USB-ports on the mobo are starting to degrade.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 hours ago

That's alright. USB rails for a PCI slot are dirt cheap.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I also decided to do a mild upgrade in my AM4 board rather than shell out for marginal upgrades. I'm rocking the 5700x3d 5700xt build.

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[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

It's the obsession with replacing PCIe slots with M.2 sockets that gets me.

[–] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 hours ago

Why not? I think its quite convenient. Also saves some required wiring and its very compact

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m more concerned with PCI slots blocked by massive GPUs, especially on smaller form factor boards. You’ll need PCI/e extension cables to install an additional card.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There are not many cards you need these days, especially not that doesn't have an USB equivalent. USB capture cards are now decent, same for Wi-Fi+Bluetooth ones (provided to buy one with deported antennas). Other than storage related ones (for moar m.2!, or for sff SAS ports), I don't see that much uses these days.

Even my NAS, which uses a micro-ATX MB, only uses one slot on the 3 available. And all its 4 m.2 ports are used (2 for redundant system discs, one for an AI accelerators (for Frigate object detection), the last one being an old SSD used as ZFS cache for my main disk array (will probably be replaced by another AI accelerator once I find another use which would need one).

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Motherboards seem to have a normal amount of slots though?

Not like you can populate them all anyway, though. Use one modern (i.e. oversized) graphics card and it seems to block three slots.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 55 points 8 hours ago (6 children)

I don't understand what their long-term plan is here. Even if AI isn't a bubble eventually all of the AI companies are going to get to a point where they don't need more compute because they're working on algorithmic optimisations because they decide that that's cheaper.

Then they're going to have to pivot back to the consumer market. Except by that point it won't even be a consumer market because China will have eaten their lunch.

[–] nightm4re@feddit.org 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I read a great article recently that tries to analyze what exactly went down and for what reasons. And most importantly, the effects it's going to have on different hardware prices: https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram-deal

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah that's widely considered to be the article about it tbh

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

The companies making the ram chips are not the ones making motherboards. They just want to sell their product for as much as they can.

Shutting down your entire consumer business does seem a bit short sighted though - keep the doors open for the future.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

Yeah people will probably turn to China when it comes to consumer pc hardware in the future like how when it comes to drones its been primarily just China actually interested in selling to regular people.

[–] Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The plan is to continue making bank until the companies are done with them, then sell to consumers again without missing a beat.

Source: the GPU shortage we just went through.

Future source: the CPU shortage scheduled for 2026.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That's my point though they can't do that.

The market isn't just going to wait around for them to get around to selling to consumers again. China is going to see an opening and they're going to manufacture their own chips and make bank. Then when the traditional manufacturer is getting their head out of their arses then realise there market share has vanished. All 100% their fault.

They have decided to shoot themselves in the foot because someone's convinced them they won't ever need legs ever again.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Eh, Chinese manufacturers are also desperately trying to catch up with AI hype. In any case, we'll see some new brands on the market, and it's not a bad thing, and I would not spend my time worrying about giant rich corporations.
My actual worry is that once RAM prices go up, they won't go down for quite some time. If we get another bubble after AI bubble pops, the prices may not decrease at all.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

I hope China moves to Linux once they get around to pushing their own consumer PC parts and move on from Windows. It's just madness to me that countries will use OS of countries they aren't on good terms with and use it to do important work on it and store important data on it.

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 22 points 7 hours ago

These companies are controlled almost entirely by people who only really care about what the stock price will be sometime in the next few years or so.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] CoffeeTails@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Noooooo don't say that ;a;

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

We would need a better general network for that. Remember stadia? Nothing has changed since then, hell some areas have even lost some capacity.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 29 minutes ago

I'd you're talking about cloud computing for gaming specifically (as you can of course use cloud computing for, well, everything), then maybe it's not good enough in the US, I don't know enough about that area to say, but networking is definitively more than sufficient in Europe.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 54 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Somebody pop the zit that is AI.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

AI isnt a zit, its a giant infected boil and blister now.

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