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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 53 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

I don't understand what their long-term plan is here. Even if AI isn't a bubble eventually all of the AI companies are going to get to a point where they don't need more compute because they're working on algorithmic optimisations because they decide that that's cheaper.

Then they're going to have to pivot back to the consumer market. Except by that point it won't even be a consumer market because China will have eaten their lunch.

[–] nightm4re@feddit.org 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I read a great article recently that tries to analyze what exactly went down and for what reasons. And most importantly, the effects it's going to have on different hardware prices: https://www.mooreslawisdead.com/post/sam-altman-s-dirty-dram-deal

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah that's widely considered to be the article about it tbh

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

The companies making the ram chips are not the ones making motherboards. They just want to sell their product for as much as they can.

Shutting down your entire consumer business does seem a bit short sighted though - keep the doors open for the future.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah people will probably turn to China when it comes to consumer pc hardware in the future like how when it comes to drones its been primarily just China actually interested in selling to regular people.

[–] Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The plan is to continue making bank until the companies are done with them, then sell to consumers again without missing a beat.

Source: the GPU shortage we just went through.

Future source: the CPU shortage scheduled for 2026.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

That's my point though they can't do that.

The market isn't just going to wait around for them to get around to selling to consumers again. China is going to see an opening and they're going to manufacture their own chips and make bank. Then when the traditional manufacturer is getting their head out of their arses then realise there market share has vanished. All 100% their fault.

They have decided to shoot themselves in the foot because someone's convinced them they won't ever need legs ever again.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Eh, Chinese manufacturers are also desperately trying to catch up with AI hype. In any case, we'll see some new brands on the market, and it's not a bad thing, and I would not spend my time worrying about giant rich corporations.
My actual worry is that once RAM prices go up, they won't go down for quite some time. If we get another bubble after AI bubble pops, the prices may not decrease at all.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I hope China moves to Linux once they get around to pushing their own consumer PC parts and move on from Windows. It's just madness to me that countries will use OS of countries they aren't on good terms with and use it to do important work on it and store important data on it.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] CoffeeTails@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Noooooo don't say that ;a;

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

We would need a better general network for that. Remember stadia? Nothing has changed since then, hell some areas have even lost some capacity.

[–] deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip 21 points 7 hours ago

These companies are controlled almost entirely by people who only really care about what the stock price will be sometime in the next few years or so.