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[–] elgordino@fedia.io 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The trouble with the railways comparison is that after investing tons of cash the railways were built. With AI the GPUs have no value after 6 years (if that). So the investment must continue forever. It’s madness.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

The other trouble with the railways comparison is that trains actually work and can generate a profit for their owners.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Railways? Good example of tech abandoned in favor of something else.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Huh? Rail handles about 40% of long distance freight in the US.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But I want to know the tech that will replace 60 % of AI.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Maybe quantum dunno

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Like, the automobile? It looks like the boom in the UK they were talking about was in the 1840s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Mania

Railway Mania was a stock market bubble in the railway industry of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in the 1840s.

There were primitive automobiles earlier, but the mass market automobile didn't come around for a long time after that, and then it'll have taken longer to get substantial marlet penetration.

searches

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42182497

It runs a bit off the edge


I don't know how far back they had licensing and mileage data.

1000009354

But extrapolating from those lines, I'd guess that annual distance traveled in the UK in autos on roads surpassed rail only in the 1940s or so, about a hundred years later.

That's probably outside the investment horizon of people investing in the 1840s


in evaluating whether an investment is worthwhile, they won't be considering returns a century hence.

That being said, it is possible to maybe consider freight rail, and it's possible that that works out differently. The US doesn't use much passenger rail in 2025, but it does do quite a bit of freight rail; the two can be decoupled.

EDIT: It can't be too much earlier that road traffic could have risen, though, since mass-market motor vehicles weren't much earlier than that.

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean a hundred years is not much for a technology your government decides to build society around.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, in that kind of timeframe, there were pretty major shifts in transportation.

For a long, long time, ships up rivers and along coasts was the way serious transportation happened.

Then we had the canal-building era in the US. I assume that the UK did the same.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canal_age

Technology archaeologists and industrial historians date the American Canal Age from 1790 to 1855[1] based on momentum and new construction activity, since many of the older canals, although limited by locks that restricted boat sizes below the most economic capacities[b], nonetheless continued in service well into the twentieth century.[c]

By 1855, canals were no longer the civil engineering work of first resort, for it was nearly always better—cheaper to build a railroad above ground than it was to dig a watertight ditch 6–8 feet (2–3 m) deep and provide it with water and make annual repairs for ice and freshet damages—even though the cost per ton mile on a canal was often cheaper in an operational sense, canals couldn't be built along hills and dales, nor backed into odd corners, as could a railroad siding.

So that was maybe sixty, seventy years before rail was really displacing it.

EDIT: I guess what I'm trying to get at is that I don't think that rail had a uniquely short era where it was the prime, go-to option compared to other transportation technologies...and I don't think I'd say that the golden era was short enough to make the technology not a worthwhile investment, even if it was later, in significant part, superseded. A hundred years is a long time to wait around without engine-driven transportation, which would have been the alternative.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Laughs in European

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

They picked the wrong history, in my not so humble opinion. The AI situation looks more like the dot-com bubble, recycled.

[–] multiplewolves@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What’s the original link? The archive won’t load for me.

Edit: I got hit with a captcha that wouldn’t load in DDG mobile. I opened it on a desktop and I have it now.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How? Archive even loads in Dillo, in a no JS mode.

[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

500 error, that's service-side

Usually from too many requests for the server to handle

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably not tbh, sometimes it's just a hug-of-death

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The main difference between the two is intention.