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Trump suggests U.S. will begin to strike drug cartels in Mexico (bnonews.com)

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[–] evol@lemmy.today 1 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 55 minutes ago)

Weirdly if its actually just drug cartel assets (I doubt) this seems like smart way to increase Latino support? Most don't have much good to say about the cartels (many leaving due to them). There own country seems to be bought out by them so Trump being this almost knight in shining armor seems like an interesting idea? Its actual effectiveness does not matter, perceptions rule all.

I think the upper middleclass-rich Democrats who lead the think tanks really haven't internalized how conservative (I think this past decade they have slowly realized) alot of immigrant groups are, my family is full of people who honestly are more aligned conservative but the idea of republicans being a "white" party is what stops them. Trump essentially has to square the circle of a party of conservative immigrants, billionaires, libertarians, and neo-nazis

[–] rayyy@piefed.social 21 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Wow! Those Epstein files must really burn.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

Decades of child rape needs a lot of distraction!!

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

He knows there is too much of him in those files. He knows what he did. Narcisist know what thye do is wrong but they feel like they are allowed. That doesn't mean they don't know others will not see it that way.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man the Epstein files must be really really bad

[–] shiroininja@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

lol this is getting old. They don’t gaf about the Epstein files. He owns the DOJ. They’re not doing all this evil shit to distract from them. This evil shit has been their plan in the making for decades. Did nobody read project 2025? The original plan had a different name and was leaked well over a decade ago.

I’m tired of this brain dead parroting. It does nothing about the evil shit that is coming. The Epstein files are not the silver bullet that will stop this.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

You're right that they're doing this because it's their genuine agenda, not a distraction.

You're wrong that it's not worth continuing to hammer on the Epstein files. Like Tim Walz calling them "weird," it's one of the few things that seems to move the needle on some of his support.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why does it have to be an either-or situation? I could be evil shit+Epstein distraction.

What was the original name for P2025?

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He might be referring to the Russian playbook to destroy western stranglehold on global politics. I doubt it though… I can’t remember the specifics, but that one is pretty old, I think.

[–] tedach@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Alexander Dugin, Foundation of Geopolitics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Epstein crimes and US expansionism are two separate very bad things. It’s a “yes and” not a “yes but”.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Everyone parroting it acting like this is a yes but and it's fucking annoying.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So this idiot wants to start wars with 4-5 countries simultaneously and gets no blowback because the consequences will take too long to ever affect him...

PS: as usual, first they tease to shift what is acceptable and manufacture consent https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-suggests-open-launch-missiles-mexico-kill-drug-cartels-deadly-force-authorized

[–] Michal@programming.dev 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The next democratic president will be blamed as always, clean up the mess, and the subsequent republican president will get the credit.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

clean up the mess

There are things that, once broke, can't be mended. I doubt that a new "moderate" US president would be capable of undoing half the mess the Big Orange Turd commited.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He’s openly talking about just suspending the midterms. So if he does that, I expect he’d suspend 2028 too. At this point, I don’t think they’re expecting to let go of power at all, ever.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump told Christians on Friday that if they vote for him this November, "in four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote."

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 7 points 1 day ago

Why would they? The biggest consequenses would involve a few democrats writing some very serious signs and maybe even write a stern tweet.

[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I personally think it doesn't really matter if the Democrats win (I am not American, but I lived there for multiple years and have travelled extensively).

I can't imagine the Democrats doing anything substantive to address criminality and corruption (which is arguably the root cause of Trump's rise).

This is true of both party leadership (that always avoid prosecution of criminal elements) and much of the party's electorate who are too well off to risk rocking the boat and generally do not see real anti-corruption reform as a priority.

Consider the fact that Meta was found to have gained $16 B (10% of their 2024 revenue) via a premeditated policy of gaining commissions from fraud on their platform. They even developed a "playbook" to manage this process; so they knew what they were doing.

It is comical to suggest that the Democrats will do anything beyond a nominal fine and asking Zuckerburg to promise to not get caught the next time he runs a scheme (if even that)

When a genuine desire to fight criminality would require Zuckerbeg and all senior employees being locked up for multiple decades while having all their asset seized (Zuckerburg directly profited from this mass scale fraud scheme via his ownership stake in Meta).

One can look at Obama's inaction against financial oligarchy in the late 2000s to predict the behaviour of the US centre-right should they win elections. Funnily enough Obama is once again pushing his shallow and meaningless "What’s needed now is courage" rhetoric.

For everyone in the world that believes in liberal democracy, human rights and opposes corruption, it is reasonable to assume that corruption and criminality in the US will not be addressed any time soon. I hope I am wrong though, but I wouldn't count on it.

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I personally don't see why people think we will have elections again when the people in charge have said over and over that we won't

Because we always have? Because of tradition?

How has that ideal been working out lately?

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So much for 'Pax'. Bellum Americana is the new order, it appears. Either you give the Americans whatever they demand, or they take it by force. International law and national sovereignty superseded by the worst sort of might-makes-right dog-eat-dog anarchy. I guess Trump saw Putin's model, and decided it was good. Especially as he now had the biggest gun in the room.

I've got to wonder how the US military feels about being reduced to lawless dishonorable raiders and thuggish fascist enforcers, plundering for the benefits of their Robber Baron in Chief.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Always been that way, just in the shadows. Also anarchy isn't chaos. The military has always been thuggish enforcers of global capital, they have always been a force for imperialism.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He only attacks much weaker countries. It's typical bully behavior.

[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I was going to say that. Mexico is to the United States approximately what Ukraine is to Russia - weaker, but capable of sustaining a long conflict.

Whom the rest of the continent would support and equip, I leave for everyone to guess. Europe can be checked for reference.

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 9 points 22 hours ago

The ones that haven't paid him*

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago

Petroleum industry in Mexico:

it is the fourth largest oil producer in the Western Hemisphere

Might have something to do with it.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Trump's just trying to juice the betting markets on whether we'll bomb Iran or Mexico next.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

Doubt. The resource they want from Mexico is cheap labour. That's much more difficult to seize with a few strikes than Venezuelan oil. They need to take Morena down from power and install a right wing puppet to depress wages.

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Just after they're done paying for the wall

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So if someone wanted to GTFO and avoid living in the Nazi state but also not be invaded by the US or be in one of its Allie countries that will follow the same path inevitably. Where would you go?

China, would probably be the least likely to get fucked unless the US goes full nuclear (and really nowhere is safe). But I don't think that's so easy.

Vietnam, maybe?

I can't see Europe doing well as NATO is dismantled.

Like, our world is literally getting fucked. If it was just me. I'd stay in the US and accept my fate and resist. But, I got a two year old kid that is only 50% of the race that our fascist leaders approve of.

History will write of the Gaza genocide is the catalyst and testing ground for the start of WW3. But we are here now. And I just want my kid to see 30.

[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No experience with kids in Vietnam, but the country is really nice. Not too sure about the safety nets in case you lose a job, especially since it would also mean you lose your residence permit...

As for europe, I think it will do reasonably fine for the next ~30 years, the decline of capitalism will be slower than in the US because it has at least some regulation in place to slow down the wealth inequality explosion. The quality of life is better than Vietnam, especially outside big cities. Practically speaking, I'd trust the safety net more too, at least for the near future. Racism depends on the country, I think your kid would do fine in most. The main drawbacks are of course that the safety net and quality of life is funded by imperialism (some from gnarly neo-colonial imperialism, looking at you France, others just economic exploitation of the global south), and that the capitalist system will decay there eventually too.

[–] RalfWausE@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vietnam really is nice (i lived there for a while), but one has to keep in mind: The living standard (away from the big cities) is still not compareable to western standards and - a thing that i find really funny in a way - i would never have thought that a communist country may be THAT anarcho capitalist.

But overall: I really love that country.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is the culture towards foreigners? Especially obviously multi racial kids growing up?

You may have no idea. But figured I'd ask.

[–] RalfWausE@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am now married to a Vietnamese woman for a bit over ten years and we have a kid, but i can only speak from my personal experience - as always, people are individuals and regional experiences may be utterly different.

As far as i can say: As long as you respect the culture, try to blend in and be friendly you will never find a more welcoming people, multi racial kids (we are talking European / Vietnamese here, ok?) are absolutely no problem. But i have to say: In Vietnam you also find the (i am speaking in general terms here) typical asian dislike for darker skin. You are absolutely fine as long as your skin tone matches roughly the one of the local population or is lighter. As a darker skinned person your experience may be completely different.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the response. I guess I'm more familiar with Korea and Japan. Japan being the worst the this regard. Definitely know the "dark skin" racism being strong in both Korea and Japan. But Japan takes it a step further and basically just only accept Japanese and others will always be outcasts.

I don't know. I guess it's depressing. I moved from the southern US to the west coast and just felt like it was a great place with a lot of diversity that my kid could grow up.

I just don't want my kid to be looked at as "well, you're obviously different" when going to school. Here, it's not an issue at all. She'd be among many others.

It's really not something you get at this degree in anywhere else in the world. And, well, I guess it's the reason we are seeing this type of white supremacy and racism take power. It's a reactionary action.

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe New Zealand? Far enough away from anything interesting and their main exports are dairy products. English as one of the official languages. Only time will tell which way the politics will go.

[–] Brocon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

As far as I'm aware New Zealand stopped immigration in 2024. So that might not be an option.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 23 hours ago

Europe also has nuclear weapons so it will not be invaded, even when US exists NATO. Some new alliance will be formed. Worst case scenario for Europe is that more countries will exit EU and turn into right wing dictatorships like Hungary. Most of the countries in EU are healthy democracies with strong, independent judiciaries so this will not happen that fast. Right now I would bet that it will be dismantled eventually but it will take another decade or two. Exact same thing can happen everywhere but even faster. Europe is still your best bet.