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Donald Trump has asked for at least $100bn (£75bn) in oil industry spending for Venezuela, but received a lukewarm response at the White House as one executive warned the South American country was currently "uninvestable".

Bosses of the biggest US oil firms who attended the meeting acknowledged that Venezuela, sitting on vast energy reserves, represented an enticing opportunity.

But they said significant changes would be needed to make the region an attractive investment. No major financial commitments were immediately forthcoming.

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[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you account for inflation, oil prices today are in line with oil prices in the early 2000s. The price is too low, and the risk is too high for massive infrastructure spending that would extract more oil from Venezuela to be worth it.

Possibly, green energy technologies are now on a trajectory to overtake fossil fuels altogether - and they are already a factor in driving the price of fossil fuels (and therefore the profitability of many wells and mines) down substantially. If that happens, the long term value of Venezuela's oil reserves, without suitable infrastructure already built for extraction, could be close to zero.

In line with small government ideals, the best thing to do is let companies decide whether and how much to invest, but that won't be a headline worth showing off. So Trump is trying to make $100B happen, and believes that that (alone) will restore the Venezuelan economy to the way it was.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about restoring the Venezuelan economy. He's an extortionist and a robber, not a caring person.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why would they? It's a win-win. They either get significant tax payer money invested on their behalf, or the oil stays off market keeping their prices high.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Prices aren't even that high, crude oil's price has been on a steady downward March since the high in 2022

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But taking Venezuelan oil offline might help bring global prices up, which would help Russia, which doesn't turn a profit unless prices are high.

[–] green_red_black@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

Russia also needs Oil to sell which is becoming hard between Ukraine hitting Russian facilities in Russia and now we have confirmation the US is not exempting the Shadow Fleet from having Russian ties

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is exactly it, it's a shakedown and Trump and the party of fiscal responsibility will see to it that yet more corporations get hundreds of billions in government largess. But boy, they sure extracted that 1 bil from PBS, so I guess they're on point.

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[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Companies have usually avoided morally dubious actions in worlds spotlight, because it deters investors.

Not sure if anyone wants to touch Trumps fresh smelly turd... at least directly and visibly.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago

They also adjustment in the business of throwing away money on PR nightmares...

The math doesn't math here. Oil barrel prices are very low, so low they'd be investing billions to lose money operating them

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I really think this all comes down to a belief that Trump and many Americans hold, that oil is irreplaceable. They have convinced themselves, or have been convinced by others, that civilizations can't exist without oil, and fossil fuels more broadly. Because of this belief, they're betting hard on oil and gas. They want to take control of as much of the world's remaining oil reserves as possible, both to secure oil for ourselves but also to restrict access to adversaries, like China.

But this belief is wrong. Civilizations can exist without fossil fuels, or at least with very minimal fossil fuel use, especially for energy. Fossil fuels are very inefficient and nonrenewable, in addition to being highly polluting. Renewables, like solar and wind, are much more efficient, especially for electricity generation. To generate electricity with fossil fuels, you have to extract the material from the ground, refine it, transport it, then burn it to boil water to generate steam to turn a turbine to generate the electricity. There are a lot of steps there, and a lot of the energy is lost in the process. With solar and wind, electricity is generated at the source. It's true that solar panels and wind turbines are not very efficient at turning the wind and sunlight into electricity, but once the electricity is generated, all you have to do is transmit it to where it is either stored or used. Some energy is lost in transmission, but that's true of electricity generated from fossil fuels, too. Renewables are simply more efficient. And, as the name implies, they are renewable. The sun will continue to shine and the wind will continue to blow for a very long time.

So as the world wakes up this realization, the world will continue to transition away from fossil fuels and toward renewables. That will reduce the demand for fossil fuels. The oil companies know this, that's why they're not in any great hurry to go and spend billions of dollars to significantly increase oil production. If they dramatically increase oil production, but the overall demand for oil doesn't also increase significantly, the price for their product will fall. They don't want to sell their product for less money, because that will reduce their profits. Lowering the price of oil sounds great to consumers of the product, who want lower gas and diesel prices, but the companies selling it don't want that. Companies want to sell their product for the highest price possible, so they can maximize their profit.

The US is betting on a fossil fuel future, but we're going to lose that bet. We've convinced ourselves, or have been convinced, that oil especially is irreplaceable and that renewables/electrification are a scam. We're wrong. An electrified world powered primarily by renewables is the future. The longer we continue down this misguided path, the further behind the rest of the world we will fall.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep the oil in Venezuela is not high grade so it's not profitable in the short term even if long term control is important for oil based business.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

How is Dorito Benito going to stop the Venezuelans from taking every thing back the minute it's convenient. He would have to put boots on the ground.

[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago

$98b for a finders fee lol

No corporation in their right mind is going invest the kind of money into anything involving Trump.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, correct me if I'm wrong, but is anyone else thinking that the entire end-goal of this is to have the Venuzuela money handled directly by his administration so that he can keep his shit going when Congress finally (hopefully) cuts his purse strings?

The one thing that the government hasn't been able to change is the fact that Congress controls the money, not him. Seems to me that Venuzuela Oil is his play at getting a private fund without them.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Exxon is just holding out for more taxpayer money as a sweetener.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

So he lied about having oil companies on board with all this. I think this is perhaps better as originally it seemed like he went around Congress and conspired with oil companies to invade Venezuela.

Who knows anymore though. This could just be oil companies covering their ass in case there was some truth to them having foreknowledge of the invasion.

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