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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 70 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Native American here: we have been trying and failing for 400 years now and could really use some help from everyone.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 19 minutes ago

Yeah you guys got a really shit deal, and the really unforgivable part is that you're still getting more shit deals even today. I'm a descendant of the colonizers, but I'm willing to help get rid of any of the ones who perpetuate these shit deals and don't think you guys absolutely deserve to be in charge around here. I mean, I'll go too, if you want, but I'm just putting it out there that I'd also be delighted to try to learn from and live in a society run by potentially actually wise elders instead of greedy old white men. Maybe someday we'll get to give it a try.

[–] Ach@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Dances with wolves me bro, I'll help.

[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

What is crazy is this was actually a huge problem for frontier settlements. Tonnes of people would meet the indigenous population, be exposed to their society, learn enough of their language to communicate, and then go "fuck this" to all the European culture and just move in with the locals. They brought whatever skills they had including metalworking and so on and joined up and for the most part it went really really well for them, until the westerners came and killed everyone. Behind The Bastards had a great episode a few years ago about it, through the lens of one particular bastard, and yeah, faced with a culture where individuals were not exploited for every last shilling of value to the shareholders people wanted out.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 hours ago

A full on economic embargo on the US would be a nice push, but the EU is too damn dependent (and swerving to the right as of late).

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 38 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The Greenlanders and Danes should export those hats into the USA.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We in the US do not wear red hats anymore... Excepting those who are completely fucked in the head.

My dad got a red ballcap, and I told him he probably shouldn't wear it outside lest people think the wrong thing about him. Nobody wants to encourage the loonies.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 5 points 2 hours ago

On the plus side, I've haven't seen a red hat in well over a year in a county he slightly won.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

I honestly can’t even stand ironic non-maga hats.

[–] Typotyper@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wear them around maga assholes and you'll love them

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago
[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Can’t (typo - now fixed)

[–] kali_fornication@lemmy.world 74 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

let me look up how to say "make greenland great again" in west greenlandic

Kalaallit Nunaat angerlaneqarpoq ajunnginnersaatitaasarlugu

that might be hard to fit on a hat

[–] Ediacarium@feddit.org 23 points 9 hours ago

Hmm, maybe try east greenlandic?

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

This is great, but maga idiots can't read. They are gonna think you're on their side.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

American here. Those of us with more than 2 brain cells are sorry that the Dunning-Krueger effect which elected and fuels the Orange Jackass is bringing our insanity to your doorstep. Almost nobody here wants your country but there's literally nothing we can do because the Orange Jackass controls all the tanks.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

You guys are going to have to do something in order to take care of your problem.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 hours ago

there’s literally nothing we can do

I wouldn't say "literally" though.
Here's a tip: start with ICE.

[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 38 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Can I buy one and ship it to the US? Only a small fraction of us actually like Trump. The rest of the numbers are blown up by the media to seem bigger than they are, then another chunk didn't even vote at all.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 62 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Those who didn't vote in the 2024 election are equally culpable to the Trumpoids in my eyes. It was very clear what Trump stood for, yet they didn't bother to go out and vote against fascism.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 62 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

My favorites are the ones who claimed they couldn't vote for a genocide.

Now they have three genocides and two invasions.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 16 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Especially when Harris, as VP, supported investigating Israel so they could shut down the rule forcing them to supply arms to Israel.

It's my opinion that she only reversed course to get campaign donations. Looking at her voting history she was the closest to Sanders out of everyone.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Seems to me very likely that Harris would have been an above average president.
But sadly Americans chose the fascist psycho over Harris, because they didn't think Harris was left wing enough, or that she didn't support the Palestinians enough.

The logic being: I'd rather be killed by a fascist psycho than not be helped as much as I want by a way more moderate person, that isn't actively supporting killing me.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

The logic being: I'd rather be killed by a fascist psycho than not be helped as much as I want by a way more moderate person, that isn't actively supporting killing me

That's too much logical thought.

Much closer to "woman not like me bad, man like me good" than anything else.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

Non-white and woman surely counted as well in some circles.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Don't give them logic.

Saw a post denouncing Mamdani and AOC for not being pro-Palestinian enough.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They'd probably denounce Hamas for not being pro-Palestinian enough.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

Only a small fraction of us actually like Trump.

Bullshit, he got half the votes, and those that didn't vote didn't dislike him enough to prevent his election.
So Americans like Trump plenty, until he does something that hurts them personally.
If you really believe your own comment, you are delusional.

[–] mrnobody@reddthat.com 0 points 2 hours ago

I'm going to go against both grains here:

  1. There are plenty of older Americans who are "Republican" and don't care who the candidate is, that's the party that they feel best aligns with their traditional beliefs and values. They don't or won't watch the media because they know most of it is bullshit (true for both sides). So, there are plenty that stay ignorant/naive in a sense.

On the flip side of that coin, I guess I shouldn't have immediately jumped into this being political, and should really strive to unite both sides bc we all know money buys politics! Aka rich vs everyone else, so it's a vertical battle, not horizonal!

I don't care which "side" is which, we need a candidate who's not bought and paid for!

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not a conspiracy tinfoil hat guy, but there's been enough projection and "holy shit are they actually admitting it?!?!?" ramblings from Trump, Musk and Rogan over this past year that it's not just myself, but have brought many others to call into question the authenticity of the results.

TLDR: IT WAS RIGGED

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I don't believe you, because there is not a shred of evidence of that.
Occam's Razor tells us it is much more plausible that Americans are just stupid, and didn't learn the lesson from 2 periods of Bush Jr. and the first period of Trump.
The American society is sociopathic and hold individual freedom as a religion. And they see Trump being a malignant narcissist as a perfect example of individual freedom, and they don't recognize the sociopathy because they see it as a virtue.

This is to me the way more plausible explanation, that we have seen play out in many presidential elections in USA, Where already Reagan's uncompromising war mongering campaign won over the much more moral and humane Carter that wanted environmental sustainability. Religious fanatics are fundamentalists, and fundamentalists vote to the right, and psychopaths are fascists and vote to the right. Trump election victory is 100% based in the insanity of the American society.

I am not saying all Americans are insane, there are many good Americans, but just as a person that has terminal cancer has cancer cells in the body that makes the body sick, doesn't mean that all cells are cancer cells. And in the same way American society is sick, because there are so many "sick" people that behave in ways that are harmful, that the society as a whole is sick.

Seen from a country that is one of the best democracies in the world, there is absolutely no doubt about it. It is very obvious that American society as a whole is very very sick.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

American here, and one who grew up in what is now trump country. Well, I guess I still live in a republican area now, but I started out rural.

Your conclusion about how the society as a whole is sick is 100% spot on.

I don't do much international travel, but I did get to spend a little bit of time in europe in the past couple years. Most of it in scandinavia of all places!

The difference is crazy, even not counting all this recent crazy shit. On the surface things look similar. But being immersed in it let all the little details sink in simultaneously.

There's an air of dignity and respect that I am just not used to in american society. Even just the instances of "we couldn't have that, somebody would immediately ruin it" were constant.

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Okay buddy, yowza that was a whole fuck ton of a response. Good on ya. I'm not in any way defending the dumbing down and weakening of critical thinking here. No shit, obviously we're getting dumber in the United States. It's been embarrassing since my childhood. I'm not going to bat for us.

Anyway, there have been a few instances where there have been slip-ups with Trump saying "Elon is so good with the voting machines in Pennsylvania", or with Rogan admitting how in awe he was of Elon looking at his phone saying Trump had won just as opening ballots had started.

Also Trump barely winning in swing states (ridiculous ) where it was a bullet ballot only supporting him, but being generally consistent along previous years trends that supported Democrats.. like I agree, yes we're stupid, whip me more Euro Daddy, but the fact that the Dems didn't immediately demand a recount is so cucked

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They always play that card. Somehow, in their minds, they're the strongest democracy out there, but over the multiple decades of their elected government representatives doing atrocious stuff their answer is always "oh no you see they don't represent the real americans"

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Read up on a thing called 'The Electoral College.'

The smaller, conservative states have more power than the larger states.

Left leaning California has 2 Senators, the same as tiny Rightwing Alabama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

Sorry, but that argument doesn't hold water anymore. We gave you guys the benefit of the doubt for his first term, but this time you knew exactly what you were getting, and you allowed him back anyway. 32% of the eligibile population voting for him is not just some small minority.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Last time he didn't win the popular vote, so there was some consolation to be taken. This time we really don't have an excuse.

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