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[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

The specific criteria is "that would, in all the circumstances, cause a reasonable person who is the target, or a member of the target group, to be intimidated, to fear harassment or violence, or to fear for their safety".

There are all manner of exceptions and qualifications. Yes, under certain circumstances saying "Israel is committing genocide" might pass the test. Just saying it as a statement of fact is not alone enough to be a crime.

The title is misleading. Michelle Rowland says it will be illegal if certain specific other criteria are met.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Other critiria like arbitrary designations of a group by the government.

[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 54 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me say that I do believe that the Israeli government is committing genocide. And they believe they are too. They've said the quiet part out loud. They don't want to live in peace with the Palestinians.

[–] star@aussie.zone 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

It's an odd premise, and ideally Rowland would have noticed and objected to the question.

Criticism of a country's actions (and in fact, it's really an implied criticism of a regime and its military) is not a threat to Jewish Australians. It may frustrate Zionists, but Zionism is a political movement, it is not a nation, religion or ethnicity. If a Zionist happens to be a Jewish Australian, it is coincidence - I know plenty of Australian Zionists who are not Jewish, and I know plenty of Jewish Australians who are anti-Zionist.

For an analogy, the interviewer's question would be as ridiculous as someone asking if it would be illegal to claim the historic Nazi regime committed genocide of Jewish, Slavic, Romani, etc. peoples, and as a result made "white" Australians feel intimidated.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yet the position of the government seems to disagree with you.

Which is precisely why the law is so problematic.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

The law was explicitly created for this. Israel succesfully weaponized the Bondi shooting to ban criticism of Israel.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It does seem, law as written, that this is the case, even to the Nazi extreme. That's because it was a knee-jerk hastily, badly, written piece of legislation that was ~~passed~~ rammed through with the help of the Liberals, always a bad sign.

That's the generous position, less generously it could have been sitting there waiting for an excuse (never let a good crisis go to waste and all that), intended to further dampen and complicate the right to protest.

ETA: “Those who made peaceful reform impossible have made violent revolution inevitable.” - John F. Kennedy

[–] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

and as a result made “white” Australians feel intimidated.

I'd say it's more if it was said to make German-Australians feel intimidated, rather than all the white ones. My Irish-Scottish grandparents were all in WW2 fighting against the Nazis in some manner. I'd never call a German friend out for Germany's Nazi history as that's not them as a person. Much like I wouldn't call out a Australian-Jewish friend for Israel's (Netanyahu's) actions today. PS: Fuck Netanyahu.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

that coincidence is very highly probable given the vast majority of israelis and zionists are jewish, hence the problem

and the softer version of zionism and israeli nationalism is something most western governments deem totally legal

[–] Aussieiuszko@aussie.zone 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel is committing a genocide.

Zionism is a hate ideology.

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Zionist ≠ Jew

Zionist = Nazi

Palestine > Israel

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well, guess I can no longer act all smug to Americans online

E: obligatory Israel is committing a genocide

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel is committing a genocide and what hold do they have over the entire world that we’re not allowed to talk about it?

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago

Let's not give Israel all the credit for the Australian governments' complicity and the weapon parts we send over.

Australia is an imperial power too, you just hear less about the islands our police occupy.

[–] observes_depths@aussie.zone 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you just say, Israel is committing genocide (it's ok to be jewish/Israeli).

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It is not okay to be Israeli

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. Just because you live in iseral doesnt mean you support your govenment.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago

The vast majority of Israelis support the genocide - far more than support their government. It's a fair generalization of Israeli society. The "not all Israelis" point is both obvious and pedantic.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

That is a really shitty way to do captions.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

That's a lot of words to say yes

[–] Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

What the actual fuck!

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'll be honest, I really never understood this zionist thing. How come they have so much power over protestant countries? the wiki says its a movement to establish a jew only land in current Palestine.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A Jewish homeland bwing restored around Jerusalem is meant to be one of the signs of the apocalypse. Christians want nothing more than the world to end. Its a huge part of the religion.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

the wiki says its a movement to establish a jew only land in current Palestine.

More or less, yes.

How come they have so much power over protestant countries?

Long story short, they proved themselves in the 1940s to be a powerful force in the region. The Middle East is known to be rich in resources such as petroleum oil, and it also has major trade routes like the Suez Canal (I'm sure you saw the impact of the Evergreen blockage) and land routes through Afghanistan, Iran, etc.. One can see how important the region is in China's Belt and Road Initiative. So, having a military outpost able to credibly threaten this region with overwhelming force is a very powerful tool for Western imperial powers like the US and (historical) NATO allies.

So, the Zionist Regime has influence over these countries because they want the Zionist Regime to help us keep power in the region.


CXORA mentioned the Evangelical Christianity aspect of it, which is real, but I consider that to be more the cultural propaganda reason than the underlying material reason.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

American here: we played this game leading up to our last election. Don't let them get away with this. Remember the power of truth in your words. Keep calling this a genocide.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Australia is a colony of convicts which ‘grew’ into a nation of wardens.

Authoritarian states will always side with their peers over their citizens.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

These are flimsy slogans: The prison colony of Australia always had wardens in charge. And if one considers Australia to be "authoritarian", then what states aren't authoritarian? Wouldn't we at least be siding with Russia, Iran, and North Korea? Australia sides with the Zionist Regime because of our imperialism; because our rich can get richer by war profiteering.