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I watched the Super Bowl and did not see Green Day. Wtf is everyone talking about?
It was before the coin flip.
Ohhhhhh.
Holiday would also have been a good choice.
Hear the drum pounding out of time
Another protester has crossed the line (Hey!)
To find the money's on the other side
Can I get another Amen? (Amen!)
There's a flag wrapped around a score of men (Hey!)
A gag, a plastic bag on a monument
I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
On holiday! (Hey!)
They actually opened with that one!
Oh awesome 😎
I know there has been some disappointment that they didn't go as hard in protest as they could have, but as a white man coming into my own understanding of privilege and platforming the voice of others, I wonder if it was intentional so that Bad Bunny's message would be heard louder. What are your thoughts?
I think you're right they didn't want to upstage the main act, but there are things to consider as well.
A lot of Liberal america is still just in a state of "uneasy" despite all we're seeing on media. It's only been in the last couple weeks that major network news has even broadcast much of this unrest and ICE murdering people, and it's still sandwiched between weather reports and stories about girl scouts selling the most cookies. People broadly are still very comfortable in the US and millions of people are going to work every day and coming home without seeing any problems, they don't even really watch the news to begin with in many cases.
Green Day likely is accurately gauging how receptive the Super Bowl viewing crowd, America's most mainstream and middle-class demographic, is going to handle too much radicalization right now.
I think there is also something to the fact that this song was written in protest to George Bush Jr. and the anti-islam, pro-war sentiment that was burning like wildfire in the country and led to the deaths of countless thousands of people in Iraq and Afghanistan for close to 2 decades. Maybe a message about repeating history.
Alternatively, our country's "protest music" scene has really gone down the shitter broadly since the 60's and 70's so they might have just been phoning it in.
Run the Jewels is amazing protest music for something recent, Rage Against the Machine is like, THE name in protest music, and they came out in the 90s. And they're still out here.
I dunno, that certainly could be the case. But it also could be that they didn't want to push their luck with ice being there. But it's something I'm sure an interviewer would ask.
I saw them at a festival in Ottawa, Canada last summer and they opened with that song! They also did do the MAGA agenda version of the song then
The people who this is directed at, won’t understand it’s about them.
Fair, but being Canadians in America, that takes stones big enough that atlas couldn't push.
Billie Joe Armstrong and Mike Dirnt were born in Oakland, California. Frank Edwin Wright III (Tre Cool) was born in West Germany, because his father was a US Army pilot, they relocated to California. The band was formed in the Bay Area. There really isn't anything about the band that's Canadian.
Jesus fucking Christ read further before you reply. I get it. They're mostly from California. For some reason I thought they were from Canada. I was wrong.
Sounds like you're the one who should read further.
no this is real now california is canada now no takesbacksies y'all canadiennes are stuck with us nyeh nyeh
Huh? It is one of their all time most popular songs in America. Same with Holiday, which is a protest song about the American invasion of Iraq. It would be unexpected if they didn't play one of these...
They not only avoided saying anything about what's going on in this country, they skipped all the pointed parts of their songs. Seriously disappointed.
At the end of the day they are just musicians. Sure, they can write some catchy edgy songs, but they aren't philosophers or leaders, and we shouldn't expect that from them.
I don't expect it from Sabrina Carpenter. I do expect it from a band that calls themselves punk. And this is exactly the time I expect it from them.
Well, all due respect to Green Day, but I don't consider them punk, so maybe that's why I didn't expect much. Is there such a thing as pop-punk?
Edit: do they really call themselves a punk band?
Yeah pop punk was huge in the aughts. Green Day started with more of an edge but they are certainly pop punk now.
Green Day has enjoyed pretending to be counter culture for decades.
There is a reason it was Green Day, they’re effectively “the man” at this point.
They were edgy by saying fuck. Ooooooooh
"I'm not a part of a MAGA agenda" got censored too... :/
It didn't even get bleeped, they skipped that verse entirely :(
Tbf that fits better than "redneck," after using the similarly sounding preceding no-no word, but I'm assuming they've also trimmed that from the song now themselves.
Also "Green Day plays what is sadly, but undoubtedly, their biggest song ever at the Superbowl." Like yeah duh. I know I know I agree it should be Going To Pasalacqua but I'm apparently the only person on earth who prefers 1,039 Smoothed Out Slappy Hours to, well, everything they did after that (Dookie and Kerplunk were great too, in that order, but after that it's one or two good songs at best per album. Like to the degree I think I like Foxboro Hot Tubs and The Network better than "Green Day" proper post-Dookie). But of course they played that and not Disappearing Boy.
Patrick Bateman, is that you?
Good for them although I'm not super surprised it's one of their more popular songs.
American Idiot
Lyrics
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Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new mania
And can you hear the sound of hysteria
The subliminal mind fuck America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones meant to follow
For that's enough to argue
🎶
Maybe I am the f a g g o t
America I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones meant to follow
For that's enough to argue
🎵
Don't want to be an American idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
Calling out to idiot America
Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alien nation
Everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones meant to follow
For that's enough to argue
http://www.greenday.net/ailyrics.html
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I'm disappointed they skipped the most important lyric of the current situation.
I'm assuming the line before was the reason they skipped that part.