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[–] rushmonke@ttrpg.network 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Death is too good for most of them

[–] 0485919158191@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I’m innocent, I swear. I’m just an index fund guy :(

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 149 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (25 children)

The guy was Mossad/Israeli CIA. His accomplice Maxwell was the daughter of an Israeli spy. He had a map of a fantasy country called "greater Israel" on his wall in his home. He was best friends with former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Barak and let him live in one of his apartments. He called people "goyims," which come to find out is an Israeli supremacist term to refer to non-Jewish people. The whole US government is compromised with blackmail by Israel and/or bribed by Israel via AIPAC so that the US funds their wars and attack our own people for speaking out against genocide. Only online media will tell you this while the entire billionaire-owned corporate media covers for Israel.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The Mossad also managed the wiretapping and camera systems at Epsteins apartment and screened everyone going in and out. https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-government-surveillance-epstein-apartment-66th-street-ehud-barak

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All true. If you know all this, you must know that Israel and Russia have been very close when it suits them to be. It's quite possible that Epstein had connections to lots of Russian powerful people.

[–] RedRibbonArmy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Absolutely.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 30 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Officially, Putin collects a modest salary, though a financier alleged to Congress in 2017 that the Russian president "has accumulated $200 billion of ill-gotten gains" through corruption and criminal activity

He's been running Russia for decades, I would highly doubt that his net worth is less than a trillion dollars. He is in that rare atmosphere of wealth that travels ABOVE mere billionaires like Musk. He's up there with the people that are NOT included in the Forbes list, those who are so wealthy and powerful that Forbes knows not to mention their names in some gauche rich guy competition. That includes certain monarchs, Sheikhs, the Rothschilds, etc. Usually long generational wealth that is so large, there almost isn't even a category for it. Putin is in THAT club. Musk WISHES he could get in that club.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lmao yeah sure, anything but Mossad

[–] xxam925@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s not beyond imagination that they are controlling Russia as well.

[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

An attempt to subvert an inconvenient narrative, more likely.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

There's no citation of the files, though. Did anyone find a confirmation? For all known previously, Epstein attempted to make ties with Russian government officials, including Putin, but it wasn't known that Epstein actually was working for Putin.

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 43 points 3 days ago (19 children)

The establishment is trying to turn this into a russian thing, as that's their go to move. But this was a mossad honeypot, clearly done in conjunction with the CIA, which is a great betrayal of their mission, an executable offense, of treason, or it's facsimile, and carries a death sentence to hear the president talk about it.

The CIA isn't allowed to conduct operations in the country, allowing a foreign intelligence agency to accrue blackmail on politicians, and rich people, and the like, is a great betrayal, I don't know why no one has even dug into this, who was in charge when all of this happened, who authorized this at the CIA? Why are they given a pass?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

The establishment is trying to turn this into a russian thing

There's a lot of evidence that Epstein was in frequent contact with Russians, though there's also evidence that his attempts to establish higher-level contacts weren't successful. His interactions with the Isrraelis seem to have been at a higher level, but Israel's a much smaller state than Russia, so the levels of bureaucracy are probably fewer. There's nothing so far in the files that connects him to US intelligence TLAs, though it's entirely plausible that any such evidence would be removed. Regardless, drawing hard conclusions at this stage about the details of his affiliations to various spooks is circumstantial, at best. Based on what I've been able to learn so far, your conclusion about it being a Mossad honeypot is believable. But we'll see.

which is a great betrayal of their mission, an executable offense

Intelligence agencies often share or trade intel. That's especially true for allies, which Israel nominally is (though I'd say they don't act like one), but it can even happen with agencies of hostile states if they have a common objective. It's not treason unless it's unauthorized disclosure of damaging information to a hostile power. Even then, it's more common to charge such people with espionage.

and carries a death sentence to hear the president talk about it

He's a liar and an idiot.

Another possibility to consider is that Epstein's operation wasn't run by the CIA, but that it was monitored closely by one or another of the many US intelligence agencies, most of which are not forbidden to operate Stateside.

Regardless, I'm inclined to accept the interpretation that the sweetheart deal happened because Epstein had some kind of high-level US government protection. Informant, asset, useful but unknowing source? That part we might never know.

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 55 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I kind of doubt this, actually.

I don't think Putin is the type to trust anybody else with his wealth. Not all of it, anyway, or even most of it.

Maybe I'd believe Epstein was a wealth manager for Putin, not the wealth manager. Just one of the many pies Putin has his fingers in.

[–] frischkaesbagett@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Please don't use straw man arguments.

Nowhere in the article it says Epstein was the only one. So you are opposing something that is never said.

The source claimed that Epstein served as a wealth manager for Russian President Vladimir Putin, as well as former Zimbabwe President Robert Mugabe

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Nowhere in the article it says Epstein was the only one.

You expect me to read articles?!?!? Preposterous!

I'm just going off of the title, where it says:

Jeffrey Epstein Was Vladimir Putin's Wealth Manager

Not 'one of Putin's wealth managers'.

So ... yeah. I blame the poorly worded title. No ragrets.

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[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.org 19 points 3 days ago (6 children)

We're not in the timeline to doubt anything, but Putin strikes me, a Russian living in Russia and closely following the politics at least of my own country, especially from the not-so-safe side, as someone who would not choose someone he can't control and have in his grasp to run anything like this.

Not to mention his paranoia, ego mania and the alleged financial skills that, again, allegedly let him win a lot of trust among the people de-facto making big decisions in Russia before he wriggled into presidency.

I don't doubt that Putin had dedicated financial managers at some point, it's just hard to belive it could've been anyone like Epstein, i.e. someone outside Russia or even Moscow where Putin could blackmail and hurt them or at least first treaten them into obedience, even with the eventual murder somewhere outside Russia (Litvinenko poisioning).

Not that nothing unexpected and hard-to-believe hasn't been surfacing for a while already, though.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I think it’s a pretty safe bet that Putin has tried to keep as many of his eggs in different baskets as possible. Having Epstein manage a bit of his money would be pretty low risk if he’s got most of it in other ventures.

For all the many public failures Putin has had over the past few years, he’s proved himself frustratingly resilient. He’s like some kind of nuclear powered cockroach.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Did Russian money pass through Epstein? Assuredly.

Was he THE man who managed Putin's vast fortune through Russia and the rest of the world? Assuredly not.

"Epstein was President Vladimir Putin's wealth manager and provided the same service for Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe," the source claimed. PEOPLE has reached out to the Kremlin for comment.

People magazine, you keep shooting your shots... maybe one day you'll knock it out of the park.

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Shit, how much did Epstein's death fuck Putin? Or perhaps cover his ass?

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[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

There are some gullible-ass mother fuckers in this thread.

Stop taking the fucking bait.

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